Alterations to WHS?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

For individual strokeplay PH is 95% of your CH, note the CH is an unrounded number so you will not necessarily be able to do this sum in your head.

Yup ok. In truth for individual strokeplay, medal or stableford, club comps I tend to not bother working out my stableford pts or nett score. I just enter my gross score on each hole and let the system work things out.

For singles matchplay I am taking that both players must get their PHs from their club system and simply do a full difference. As it happens iG does this for us for club matches so we don’t have to do anything.

 

[clubchamp98]

Is there even a single calculation that the player now has to do that they did not have to do previously?
If not, that's at least 2 fewer.

What calculation was needed before.

6.4 =6
6.5=7

that was it


Im 6.5 how do I find my playing handicap without any calculations if I visit another course?

 

[Genu9]

Our first comp of the year in April will be...

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And there will be one of these every week through to end of September.
Only a few board comps at weekends will be stablefords.

The "max score" thing is interesting. I think it something like 5-over per hole.
So you putt out for an 8 on a par-4 or you will be given a 9. Not certain this is absolutely correct, but get the gist.

Men can choose white or yellow tee, but ladies have only red rated for them.
We have recently had reds rated for men, so I am hoping that will also be an option. I'm keen to give it a go at least once.
At the moment I will have PH of white=6. yellow=4 and red=3.

Something like this could have been done years ago, but WHS seems to have awakened people to more possibilities of ways to play golf. So that's a good thing in my view.

And that is precisely what my Spreadsheet will do once I have finished checking & testing. (unlike the Post Office/Fujitsu, I like to make sure things work).

It's not meant to replace the competion software, it is for casual and ad-hoc comps not covered under the Club (CV1) umbrella.

 

[Steve Wilkes]

I disagree you said “ Fewer calculations “ that’s just not true!

Well dosnt that prove WHS is confusing the very people it is supposedly making things easier for.

Should have hid the calculations behind a non published algorithm, Then everyone would have wanted to know exactly how to calculate their Handicap

 

[Genu9]

What calculation was needed before.

6.4 =6
6.5=7

that was it


Im 6.5 how do I find my playing handicap without any calculations if I visit another course?

If were to visit Nelson GC there will be a chart similar to this on the wall.

Off the 'Yellow Tee' @ 100% & 95% = 5, 90% or 85% = 4.

 

[wjemather]

What calculation was needed before.

6.4 =6
6.5=7

that was it


Im 6.5 how do I find my playing handicap without any calculations if I visit another course?

I'm repeating myself here, but...

Looking at a board or an app to find your CH requires zero calculations by the player, not even rounding.
The only time you need a PH is if playing in a strokeplay comp or a match. For the former, the software works out your PH - no calculation required, not even rounding. For the latter, the number and complexity of the calculations required hasn't changed.

 

[Deleted member 29109]

What calculation was needed before.

6.4 =6
6.5=7

that was it


Im 6.5 how do I find my playing handicap without any calculations if I visit another course?

Took me 17 seconds to get this screenshot from the EG app. Probably could have done it faster if I had opened the correct app in the first instance.

Selecting any of the courses gives me a CH for each set of rated tees.

Guessing that you’ll say you leave your phone in the car. Look before you play.

It’s not difficult.

 

[Genu9]

You can make the screenshot smaller...........

 

[Deleted member 29109]

You can make the screenshot smaller...........

didn’t want to

 

[clubchamp98]

Took me 17 seconds to get this screenshot from the EG app. Probably could have done it faster if I had opened the correct app in the first instance.

Selecting any of the courses gives me a CH for each set of rated tees.

Guessing that you’ll say you leave your phone in the car. Look before you play.

It’s not difficult.

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I didn’t say it was difficult.
I challenged a statement that there were “ less calculations”

 

[rulefan]

I challenged a statement that there were “ less calculations”

Yes. It should have been fewer.

 

[clubchamp98]

Yes. It should have been fewer.

He said fewer to be fair.

I turned up at Birkdale years ago went to the tee I was off six no calculations.
Turn up now I need to check what my handicap is there as it’s not six given the difficulty, how is that fewer?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

I didn’t say it was difficult.
I challenged a statement that there were “ less calculations”

You asked what calculations you needed to do to determine your playing handicap when visiting an away course.

The answer is none. (For me in England)

You were suggesting it was difficult. I’m saying it isn’t.

 

[clubchamp98]

You asked what calculations you needed to do to determine your playing handicap when visiting an away course.

The answer is none. (For me in England)

You were suggesting it was difficult. I’m saying it isn’t.

I wasn’t suggesting it was difficult.
As I said I challenged a statement it needed “fewer calculations “

Under UHS there were no calculations so how can there be fewer now?

 

[wjemather]

He said fewer to be fair.

I turned up at Birkdale years ago went to the tee I was off six no calculations.
Turn up now I need to check what my handicap is there as it’s not six given the difficulty, how is that fewer?

Why are you calculating your Course Handicap manually instead of looking at a board/chart/app like everyone else?

 

[clubchamp98]

Why are you calculating your Course Handicap manually instead of looking at a board/chart/app like everyone else?

I’m not.
Im challenging your statement that ” there’s fewer calculations “
There was no calculation under the old system so how can there be fewer?

 

[IanM]

He probably isnt.

Calculations = process steps?

 

[clubchamp98]

He probably isnt.

Calculations = process steps?

Yes .
old system I could walk straight to the tee and say “ I’m off six”
Cant do that today as I need to check the board ( if still up to date) ,app or other spreadsheet

 

[wjemather]

I’m not.
Im challenging your statement that ” there’s fewer calculations “
There was no calculation under the old system so how can there be fewer?

Under UHS, you were required to self-adjust and perform rounding from your exact handicap. We can debate whether rounding is a calculation, but self-adjustment certainly was.

Yes .
old system I could walk straight to the tee and say “ I’m off six”
Cant do that today as I need to check the board ( if still up to date) ,app or other spreadsheet

And since looking at a board (or app, spreadsheet, etc.) is not a calculation, you are doing zero calculations now, which is fewer than before.

 

[clubchamp98]

Under UHS, you were required to self-adjust and perform rounding from your exact handicap. We can debate whether rounding is a calculation, but self-adjustment certainly was.


And since looking at a board (or app, spreadsheet, etc.) is not a calculation, you are doing zero calculations now, which is fewer than before.

No need to round unless your handicap changed.
Never once self adjusted.

so no calculations .
Cant get lower than zero.!