Alignment and ball position!

[kid2]

Iv come across a few brain benders lately in my rounds and i just cant seem to figure out what way to play them.......
I know that a ball slightly above the feet will tend to draw and its the opposite for a ball below the feet.....Does the severity of the slope determine the club used?
Also on my course alot of the fairways are very undulating much similar to a links....An ex, would be our 10th...Par 4 90deg dogleg right....Its a tough fairway to get a decent lie on unless your pinpoint accurate with a fade to an area that about 30 mtrs square......This will give the flattest lie....Also playing off the tee its 150 mtr carry of a just to barely clear it....The green then is raised above the fairway over another lake.......Now there's a 150mtr marker on the fairway but if you land near this the fairway is falling toward the tee and also towards the hole....

So how to you address a ball thats below your feet but your also standing on a downslope towards the hole....And where do i aim?

 

[Region3]

You're right about which way the ball will go off a sidehill lie, I'm just not sure if you're right about it curving, or whether it will just go straight left or right.

Off a downhill lie the ball will go lower and further, and it should be shorter and higher off an uphill lie.

Think about drawing a flat lie on a bit of paper and then your normal trajectory with whatever club, then tilt the paper up or down to replicate the slope you're playing from and the trajectory of the ball changes with the slope. I hope that makes sense?

For your example I would take a club less, and aim at the left hand side of the green. That way if you subconsciously compensate for the sidehill lie you won't get into trouble, and if it does go right you should have enough green to keep it on.

 

[kid2]

You're right about which way the ball will go off a sidehill lie, I'm just not sure if you're right about it curving, or whether it will just go straight left or right.

Off a downhill lie the ball will go lower and further, and it should be shorter and higher off an uphill lie.

Think about drawing a flat lie on a bit of paper and then your normal trajectory with whatever club, then tilt the paper up or down to replicate the slope you're playing from and the trajectory of the ball changes with the slope. I hope that makes sense?

For your example I would take a club less, and aim at the left hand side of the green. That way if you subconsciously compensate for the sidehill lie you won't get into trouble, and if it does go right you should have enough green to keep it on.

Sounds simple

 

[doubletripledouble]

You're right about which way the ball will go off a sidehill lie, I'm just not sure if you're right about it curving, or whether it will just go straight left or right.

Off a downhill lie the ball will go lower and further, and it should be shorter and higher off an uphill lie.

Think about drawing a flat lie on a bit of paper and then your normal trajectory with whatever club, then tilt the paper up or down to replicate the slope you're playing from and the trajectory of the ball changes with the slope. I hope that makes sense?

For your example I would take a club less, and aim at the left hand side of the green. That way if you subconsciously compensate for the sidehill lie you won't get into trouble, and if it does go right you should have enough green to keep it on.

Sounds simple

Lay up

 

[Region3]

You're right about which way the ball will go off a sidehill lie, I'm just not sure if you're right about it curving, or whether it will just go straight left or right.

Off a downhill lie the ball will go lower and further, and it should be shorter and higher off an uphill lie.

Think about drawing a flat lie on a bit of paper and then your normal trajectory with whatever club, then tilt the paper up or down to replicate the slope you're playing from and the trajectory of the ball changes with the slope. I hope that makes sense?

For your example I would take a club less, and aim at the left hand side of the green. That way if you subconsciously compensate for the sidehill lie you won't get into trouble, and if it does go right you should have enough green to keep it on.

Sounds simple

Depends how far the shot is and what trouble is at the back of the green.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Not sure how accurate or legal it is in comps but I was advised once to put the club you want to use on the slope and gently stand on thehead and the angle the shaft points at is about the angle the ball will come out at.

 

[Ken_A]

Got a piccie of the hole? or stroke-saver info?

 

[chrisd]

Not sure how accurate or legal it is in comps but I was advised once to put the club you want to use on the slope and gently stand on thehead and the angle the shaft points at is about the angle the ball will come out at.

Done that many times and it is a good guide.I can't see how it can infringe any rule.


Chris

 

[Spinn77]

Not sure how accurate or legal it is in comps but I was advised once to put the club you want to use on the slope and gently stand on thehead and the angle the shaft points at is about the angle the ball will come out at.

Done that many times and it is a good guide.I can't see how it can infringe any rule.


Chris

I saw this on the european tour a few weeks ago. Which was odd, quick double take confirmed it though

 

[chrisd]

In fact, when I did it, it was to see if I could clear some trees and I'd read about doing it and it seemed to work fine.


Chris

 

[RGDave]

Not sure how accurate or legal it is in comps but I was advised once to put the club you want to use on the slope and gently stand on thehead and the angle the shaft points at is about the angle the ball will come out at.

Whoa.....long time since I've heard this baby.

My partner wandered over to see me standing on the head of my 8 iron eyeing up some trees (to get over). He thought I was weird. Same principle, lay the club face "flat" on the head and the resulting shaft angle is approx the angle the ball will come off. Probably doesn't work for pros and long-hitters though. I saw a pro (on video) who was getting 19 degrees launch with a 7 iron......talk about de-lofting!!!

 

[brendy]

A hanging lie won't turn right for reference unless YOU compensate for this common mis conception. Ball above feet will go left though.

 

[kid2]

Got a piccie of the hole? or stroke-saver info?

Best i can do is Google earth it and stick it up....It'll give some idea anyway.