AJ v Wlad

Mr A said:
I'm hoping for a Klitschko win myself. I've been a fan of Wlad for a long time, and I'd love to see him finish his career on a high. He dominated for 10 years but gets talked about like he is some kind of fraud. Granted he hasn't had any great opponents, and his style isn't always pleasing on the eye. But he's beaten everyone there is to beat and is a great ambassador for the sport.

AJ has tons of potential, but the hype is laughable, and his run of PPV fights were a joke. His level of opposition has been poor, and it could cost him, even against this older version of Wladimir.

I won't be paying for it though, the whole PPV model for boxing is a farce.
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What you mean he isn't the second coming of Ali? ;)
 
I have no real problem with hype. That's what promoters and managers should do for their clients. I think a heavyweight who has knocked all of his opponents out is going to naturally get hype. It's how they deal with their opposition as they step up that matters.

I'll be watching and I'm actually looking forward to it. Apart from 2 rounds against Whyte, Joshua has pretty much dominated every round of his professional career. Granted, in the main against a list of no marks. Wlad is a massive, massive step up, there is no doubt about that. However, it's worth remembering Joshua has only had 18 professional fights. This is already his 4th title fight. At this stage in his career Wlad was still fighting no marks on undercards. Joshua looks great and punches in combinations but hasn't been tested against top level opposition. Wlad will certainly provide this test. Joshua certainly has the tools to KO anyone. No idea if he can do this against someone in highest tier punching back though. This for me makes it a must see fight.

I'd like to see Joshua win as I think he has potential to be top level. No idea if he will though, as no idea how he'll react to Wlad's power. I'm backing Joshua by KO 1-3, 3-4 and Wlad 7-9 by KO. Also putting a daft 5 spot on the draw - a lot of money in it for them having to do it again. Defo spreading my money about, I just think it's hard to call.
 
Fromtherough said:
I have no real problem with hype. That's what promoters and managers should do for their clients. I think a heavyweight who has knocked all of his opponents out is going to naturally get hype. It's how they deal with their opposition as they step up that matters.

I'll be watching and I'm actually looking forward to it. Apart from 2 rounds against Whyte, Joshua has pretty much dominated every round of his professional career. Granted, in the main against a list of no marks. Wlad is a massive, massive step up, there is no doubt about that. However, it's worth remembering Joshua has only had 18 professional fights. This is already his 4th title fight. At this stage in his career Wlad was still fighting no marks on undercards. Joshua looks great and punches in combinations but hasn't been tested against top level opposition. Wlad will certainly provide this test. Joshua certainly has the tools to KO anyone. No idea if he can do this against someone in highest tier punching back though. This for me makes it a must see fight.

I'd like to see Joshua win as I think he has potential to be top level. No idea if he will though, as no idea how he'll react to Wlad's power. I'm backing Joshua by KO 1-3, 3-4 and Wlad 7-9 by KO. Also putting a daft 5 spot on the draw - a lot of money in it for them having to do it again. Defo spreading my money about, I just think it's hard to call.
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Good post :thup:
 
I'll be watching, I'm glad they've managed to make the fight, as I thought it would be too easy for them to miss each other, with AJ's crew saying it's too early, and Vlad retiring.

It's a huge test for AJ, as Fromtherough has said, he's only been tested in 2 rounds so far, and I think Vlad's too good to get blown away by AJ.

I don't mind paying the £20, as it's cheaper than having to buy the Pizza's or the Beer!
 
I don't follow boxing at all, but I actually enjoyed Haye Bellew when I watched it with a few mates, so I think I'll be watching this one as well - in a pub somewhere or other. No idea who'll win but AJ is from Watford so I've got to back him really. :)
 
I like sport and I'd quite like to see this fight. However the last fight I watched live was the Groves v Gutknecht fight as it was live on terrestrial tv, me and mrs watched it unusually (must have been nowt else on), turned out it was a good scrap with Groves well on top. However shocked to hear of Gutknechts becoming very ill later on. Ended up in a coma and now he can't walk or speak. That is the terrible risk and brutal reality of the sport which is easily forgotten in all the big money hype and machismo. The Michael Watson episode was very sad as was Ali's decline and I guess there are many other lesser known boxers in similar mental/physical conditions that are not spoken about as it's all about money and business.
Not sure what the answer is, if the sport has to continue could headgear not be worn by pros as well as amateurs?
 
Will be hoping that AJ wins , certainly seems a level headed bloke and the best thing about the build up so far is that they both are acting like mature men showing respect - none of the nonsense seen recently with other fights with the throwing of insults and even punches and they both seem to show respect to each other and I expect that they will once the fight is done it will continue. I expect they will let their fighting doing the talking for them.

Joshua seems to be a boxer with the ability and personality to inject a bit of much needed interest into boxing and especially at the heavyweight division which has been a bit of a joke for a while.
 
maxfli65 said:
I like sport and I'd quite like to see this fight. However the last fight I watched live was the Groves v Gutknecht fight as it was live on terrestrial tv, me and mrs watched it unusually (must have been nowt else on), turned out it was a good scrap with Groves well on top. However shocked to hear of Gutknechts becoming very ill later on. Ended up in a coma and now he can't walk or speak. That is the terrible risk and brutal reality of the sport which is easily forgotten in all the big money hype and machismo. The Michael Watson episode was very sad as was Ali's decline and I guess there are many other lesser known boxers in similar mental/physical conditions that are not spoken about as it's all about money and business.
Not sure what the answer is, if the sport has to continue could headgear not be worn by pros as well as amateurs?
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Not really a necessary discussion in this thread is it?

Fighting sports are savage, which is why they are popular.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Will be hoping that AJ wins , certainly seems a level headed bloke and the best thing about the build up so far is that they both are acting like mature men showing respect - none of the nonsense seen recently with other fights with the throwing of insults and even punches and they both seem to show respect to each other and I expect that they will once the fight is done it will continue. I expect they will let their fighting doing the talking for them.

Joshua seems to be a boxer with the ability and personality to inject a bit of much needed interest into boxing and especially at the heavyweight division which has been a bit of a joke for a while.
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Interesting you mention his personality. In my opinion he is so media trained it's like listening to a robot rehashing practiced cliches and one liners.

I think the real Joshua is very much removed from the one we see on TV
 
richy said:
Interesting you mention his personality. In my opinion he is so media trained it's like listening to a robot rehashing practiced cliches and one liners.

I think the real Joshua is very much removed from the one we see on TV
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Maybe you're right,but sounds like his life could have gone a different direction with the drug dealing.
So good on him for turning it around.
 
Dasit said:
Not really a necessary discussion in this thread is it?

Fighting sports are savage, which is why they are popular.
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I really hope you're right in that both these guys come through unscathed and its not a talking point down the line. Klitschko at his age wants to think carefully about his health, money offered is very tempting to keep going.
 
Stats suggest the same height but Joshua looked a fair bit shorter.

Intrigued by this fight, hope not too much grabbing/clinching.

Probably just the radio for me.
 
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