AJ v Wlad

Just watched the 5th, 6th, and 11th back. Some brutal punches given and taken by both. AJ was a sitting duck for a round and a half, not sure he'd be allowed to get away with that again. Character shown, and that uppercut in 11 would have sent most mere mortals into space!

Argh eh Phil, you can't say the interviews are a bit staged then compliment Wlad (less than 15 mins later) for what he says in said interview :)
 
Top performance by both boxers and a great advert for the heavyweight division. Joshua certainly lived up to the hype. 19th fight and probably the legitimate top heavyweight in the world.

Wlad was really impressive. Best I've seen him for a long while. His fitness was on another plane. He landed some superb shots and bravely got back to his feet numerous times. He hit Joshua with plenty and dominated the middle rounds. Only bravery and guts kept Jushua in it.

Jushua is susceptible, no doubt about it and his massive frame means his cardio is lacking. Wlad exposed that on more than a few occasions tonight. However, he now looks like he's willing to ship a few to land his own shots, with aplomb. He gassed and was lucky to not get KO'd. Fortunately for him not many people can withstand his shots when he lands. And he always seems to land...

However, what a comeback! Joshua fought very linear tonight which I was initially shocked with. Having time to reflect, I think he was hoping to bomb Wlad out of there early. When that didn't happen he relied on guts to survive the onslaught. Survive he did. As soon as he landed that uppercut it was game over. His combinations truly are what sets him apart. Devastating.

I'd like to see Ortiz (easy to make as both Matchroom) or Wilder next. Fury should wait. Probably needs a while to get under 20 stone anyway.
 
richy said:
Better than into thought it would be.

The winner, rightly, has earned his shot against Fury.
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:rofl:

Fury needs to earn the right first - there is no way Fury would have beaten the Klitchsko that fought last night

Joshua I expect is no longer overhyped and couldn't prove himself more last night.
 
Fromtherough said:
Top performance by both boxers and a great advert for the heavyweight division. Joshua certainly lived up to the hype. 19th fight and probably the legitimate top heavyweight in the world.

Wlad was really impressive. Best I've seen him for a long while. His fitness was on another plane. He landed some superb shots and bravely got back to his feet numerous times. He hit Joshua with plenty and dominated the middle rounds. Only bravery and guts kept Jushua in it.

Jushua is susceptible, no doubt about it and his massive frame means his cardio is lacking. Wlad exposed that on more than a few occasions tonight. However, he now looks like he's willing to ship a few to land his own shots, with aplomb. He gassed and was lucky to not get KO'd. Fortunately for him not many people can withstand his shots when he lands. And he always seems to land...

However, what a comeback! Joshua fought very linear tonight which I was initially shocked with. Having time to reflect, I think he was hoping to bomb Wlad out of there early. When that didn't happen he relied on guts to survive the onslaught. Survive he did. As soon as he landed that uppercut it was game over. His combinations truly are what sets him apart. Devastating.

I'd like to see Ortiz (easy to make as both Matchroom) or Wilder next. Fury should wait. Probably needs a while to get under 20 stone anyway.
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Very well assessed and in full agreement.

A very good fight not a classic too many non rounds but when it came to life what a fight.

Could you imagine Joshua doing an interview tipsy or drunk I bet he could talk some rubbish.

I'm with Fundy on the finish don't think it should have been stopped even though I believe Joshua would have knocked him out still never the same when a man is still standing.

Fury can wait as has been said he has done boxing no favours so why give him a massive pay day.
 
The Klitschko that showed up now really wanted it and knew he had to be at his best to have a chance. I thought he should have took him out in the 5th where he was wobbling around, or in the 6th when he knocked him down, but you've got to give full credit to AJ, he came through it and took him out when the chance came. I don't think anyone else in that division would be tougher than the fight last night.

i don't think that Klitschko turned up against Fury because he thought Fury was a clown and didn't prepare properly. Nothin like a defeat to help you refocus after coasting for so long.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
:rofl:

Fury needs to earn the right first - there is no way Fury would have beaten the Klitchsko that fought last night

Joshua I expect is no longer overhyped and couldn't prove himself more last night.
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Fury is still the lineal champion, he doesn't need to earn anything.

Joshua did well last night, I didn't think he had that in him. However he went life and death with an old man that was schooled 18 months ago.

To those saying AJ would knock out fury and the Klitschko that fought last night would too, what are you basing that on? Just opinions not facts?
 
richy said:
Fury is still the lineal champion, he doesn't need to earn anything.

Joshua did well last night, I didn't think he had that in him. However he went life and death with an old man that was schooled 18 months ago.

To those saying AJ would knock out fury and the Klitschko that fought last night would too, what are you basing that on? Just opinions not facts?
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You can only beat what's in front of you and I agree that fury would deserve his shot IF he can show he's fit physically and mentally.

Personally imo I think klitschko looked better prepared and certainly attacked more. I think the truth in regards to all their abilities is kinda in the middle. I think Klitscko under prepared for fury and paid the price. I also think that's Joshua got carried away thinking he had it done, proper heavyweights can take a punch on occasion and AJ punched himself out when if he'd stayed back a little would imo have cleaned up around the 5th or 6th.

i think a well prepared Joshua beats em both if he keeps his head.
 
Papas1982 said:
You can only beat what's in front of you and I agree that fury would deserve his shot IF he can show he's fit physically and mentally.

Personally imo I think klitschko looked better prepared and certainly attacked more. I think the truth in regards to all their abilities is kinda in the middle. I think Klitscko under prepared for fury and paid the price. I also think that's Joshua got carried away thinking he had it done, proper heavyweights can take a punch on occasion and AJ punched himself out when if he'd stayed back a little would imo have cleaned up around the 5th or 6th.

i think a well prepared Joshua beats em both if he keeps his head.
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Klitschko didn't under prepare, he's a consummate professional. Fury just made it difficult for him that night.

That klitschko last night was a year and a half older and had been totally inactive and he pushed AJ right to the brink. The old version would've been able to finish him off in my opinion.

Joshua answered a lot of questions in that fight, particularly how much heart he has however there was a lot of flaws exposed also. His defence is shocking.
 
richy said:
Klitschko didn't under prepare, he's a consummate professional. Fury just made it difficult for him that night.

That klitschko last night was a year and a half older and had been totally inactive and he pushed AJ right to the brink. The old version would've been able to finish him off in my opinion.

Joshua answered a lot of questions in that fight, particularly how much heart he has however there was a lot of flaws exposed also. His defence is shocking.
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I agree his defence is poor. Although he was against arguably the best jab in a generation.

As to klitsckho prep prep for both fights. Anyone can get complacent. And neither of us have proof either way if he under prepped or not.

A 35 yr old Klitch may well have won, but would a 27yr old one have? Most boxers get better as they age and I'd say AJ certainly has a good starting point. I'd like to see the fury fight as its a good British one.

I think his idiotic behaviour distracts many from how good a boxer he is. It certainly wouldn't be an easy fight, for either of em.
 
richy said:
Klitschko didn't under prepare, he's a consummate professional. Fury just made it difficult for him that night.

That klitschko last night was a year and a half older and had been totally inactive and he pushed AJ right to the brink. The old version would've been able to finish him off in my opinion.

Joshua answered a lot of questions in that fight, particularly how much heart he has however there was a lot of flaws exposed also. His defence is shocking.
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In your opinion is Joshua a consummate professional?
 
richy said:
Fury is still the lineal champion, he doesn't need to earn anything.

Joshua did well last night, I didn't think he had that in him. However he went life and death with an old man that was schooled 18 months ago.

To those saying AJ would knock out fury and the Klitschko that fought last night would too, what are you basing that on? Just opinions not facts?
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I don't agree it was a schooling in that Fury v Klitschko fight. I remember it as a very boring fight of same styles, where no-one took any risks and barely threw anything. It was a poor performance by one, Fury, and a worse one from the other, Klitschko.
 
Piece said:
I don't agree it was a schooling in that Fury v Klitschko fight. I remember it as a very boring fight of same styles, where no-one took any risks and barely threw anything. It was a poor performance by one, Fury, and a worse one from the other, Klitschko.
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Exactly this. Fury's reach was the main difference. Fury deserved the win but it was far from impressive. Very boring fight and frustrating to watch. I kept expecting Klitschko to pick up the pace but he never did, then it was all over.
 
richy said:
Fury is still the lineal champion, he doesn't need to earn anything.

Joshua did well last night, I didn't think he had that in him. However he went life and death with an old man that was schooled 18 months ago.

To those saying AJ would knock out fury and the Klitschko that fought last night would too, what are you basing that on? Just opinions not facts?
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Do you think that Klitchsko boxed at a higher level against Joshua or Fury ?

Imo Klitchsko was poor against Fury , well below par and Fury took advantage of that , against Joshua Klitchsko wanted to make sure that didn't happen again, there is no way Fury imo would have beaten Klitchsko last night.

Fury has had his 5 mins of fame and will be alongside boxers like Douglas and McCall - one hit wonders that created a shock
 
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