Accidentally stood on my ball

[Colin L]

We have pick and place at our club all season and have a old boy that instead of bending down to place his ball he taps it a few times with his club to position it?

I take you only return qualifying scores in the winter and don’t run any stroke play comps on the summer?

 

[backwoodsman]

Not exactly "my" principle [/B] It's the very first statement in the Rules;

RULE 1.1
Golf is played in a round of 18 (or fewer) holes on a course by striking a ball with a club.

The Rules allow you sometimes to move your ball to play from a different spot or to return it to the same spot. There is a penalty for moving it other than with by a stroke with a club when the rules don't allow it. The penalty is intended to compensate for the any potential gain, not necessarily an actual gain (which is what Orikuro is misunderstanding). Accidental movement such as kicking or standing on the ball is penalised with one stroke which indicates that it's not considered to be likely to lead to a significant gain if it went uncorrected. Where there is a more significant potential gain, the penalty is two strokes or loss of hole.

One of the drawbacks of brevity. I should have said '... I like Colin's explanation ...'

After that, of course, there are variations, exceptions, special circumstances, etc. But basically, hit it with a club, dont move it with anything else, otherwise you'll cop it.

 

[Rlburnside]

I take you only return qualifying scores in the winter and don’t run any stroke play comps on the summer?

We have one club length pick and place all year and yes we do play all competitions with this rule.

It’s been like that ever since the club was formed in fact it used to be 2 club lengths relief.

 

[Rlburnside]

Hardly bizarre imo. After all, 'you' stuck it there - pretty much a fundamental tenet of the game! It's your choice to take the penalty for a better lie (or play it as it lies).

The times I’ve seen this happen it would be impossible to play it as it lies as it’s plugged that deep that’s why I think it’s harsh


We can take a free drop if a ball is plugged in the rough so what’s the difference ?

 

[Colin L]

We have one club length pick and place all year and yes we do play all competitions with this rule.

It’s been like that ever since the club was formed in fact it used to be 2 club lengths relief.

That's remarkable. Even if you have permission to have preferred lies all year round, a club length means you can't return competition or general play scores for handicap.

 

[rulefan]

A few more when you add in 1.1, 1.2 etc. There are even sub sections within those.

The pre 2019 Rules including sub-sections and Decisions was larger the the new rules and Interpretations by some 200 pages and the Players' edition even smaller.

 

[rulefan]

That's remarkable. Even if you have permission to have preferred lies all year round, a club length means you can't return competition or general play scores for handicap.

Is Riburnside actually in GB&I? I thought he was from Mississippi.

 

[backwoodsman]

Is Riburnside actually in GB&I? I thought he was from Mississippi.

He's about as far away as Mississippi - but yes, still in GB&I.

 

[Rlburnside]

I always as

That's remarkable. Even if you have permission to have preferred lies all year round, a club length means you can't return competition or general play scores for handicap.

I think we must have special dispensation to do this as its always been this way

 

[Foxholer]

The times I’ve seen this happen it would be impossible to play it as it lies as it’s plugged that deep that’s why I think it’s harsh
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Peculiar allowances for your club notwithstanding, it' 'your fault', just as it if you duff it into water!

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We can take a free drop if a ball is plugged in the rough so what’s the difference ?

That's an allowance - normally temporary - for abnormal conditions and should not be permanent. And the anomoly you raise is precisely why such allowances should not be permanent.

 

[rulefan]

I always as


I think we must have special dispensation to do this

I doubt it.

 

[Foxholer]

I doubt it.

Quite possibly temporary dispensation was granted in the past and the club never fully rescinded it/announced the cessation of the dispensation.

 

[Steven Rules]

That was specifically forbidden under the pre-2019 rules with a 1-stroke penalty for "rolling it with a club". Although the 2019 rules don't specifically mention "rolling it with a club" as being forbidden, it does say that the ball must be placed on the spot selected.

Interpretation Replace/1 - Ball May Not Be Replaced with a Club

For a ball to be replaced in a right way, it must be set down and let go. This means the player must use his or her hand to put the ball back in play on the spot it was lifted or moved from.

For example, if a player lifts his or her ball from the putting green and sets it aside, the player must not replace the ball by rolling it to the required spot with a club. If he or she does so, the ball is not replaced in the right way and the player gets one penalty stroke under Rule 14.2b(2) (How Ball Must Be Replaced) if the mistake is not corrected before the stroke is made

 

[KenL]

One ‘ bizarre’ rule I find harsh is when you take a shot duff it and the ball plugs where you hit it from and then you are penalized with a one shot penalty

Eh, who does that?

 

[KenL]

I always as


I think we must have special dispensation to do this as its always been this way

Ah, the joys of never being in a divot. What is wrong at your place that requires this? Sounds like a cow field.

 

[Rlburnside]

Eh, who does that?

I’ve only ever done it once it’s quite a shock when you look to see where your ball has gone and and then find it underground ? have seen others do it

 

[Deleted member 29109]

Eh, who does that?

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[Old Colner]

Eh, who does that?

Oh, I have seen it done, and the guy was adamant the ball was not buried in the ground, it does have to be very, very wet underfoot.

 

[KenL]

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That's a bomb crater surely?

 

[Deleted member 29109]

That's a bomb crater surely?

It was a slightly descending blow with a 5 wood. It sounded and felt like a perfect strike.