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I was on the understanding that this rule is mainly in place to make people go to the clubhouse so they are recognised and cant just sneak on the course without paying.
 

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it is also a rule at granters current club

It is but no one seems to observe it, this morning being a case in point, people all over the place standing at their cars changing. Everyone was there at same time for shotgun start including most of the committee.
Tbh I think it is there in name only.
 

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It is but no one seems to observe it, this morning being a case in point, people all over the place standing at their cars changing. Everyone was there at same time for shotgun start including most of the committee.
Tbh I think it is there in name only.

some of the newer members stick to it
 

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I wonder what reception you would get at Woburn, Beau Desert, Sunningdale, Forest of Arden, the Belfry etc etc if you were spotted changing your shoes in the car park?

Horses for Courses IMO, I change in the car park at my place, but I doubt I will do so at Blackmoor in the morning.
 

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Recently I have been to two clubs for friendly rounds, turned up early and observed at both they have this rule, so went into the locker rooms to get changed and found that at neither is there a locker for me to store my gear, so I have to go back to my car and place my gear back in the car, because neither club provides a locker for visitors. I cant understand this at all, and because of this, if I go back to these clubs I would change my shoes in the car park, and if anyone challenged me point out why.
 
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Its just another example of golf clubs stuck in the last century and being unwilling to change!

There is a sign in the car park at Ranfurly Castle saying some members find it offensive that people are changing shoes in the car park!

Priceless - and they wonder why they struggle - look inwards at your attitude.
 

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I wonder what reception you would get at Woburn, Beau Desert, Sunningdale, Forest of Arden, the Belfry etc etc if you were spotted changing your shoes in the car park?

Horses for Courses IMO, I change in the car park at my place, but I doubt I will do so at Blackmoor in the morning.

Cannot comment about the other courses. But no-one seemed at all bothered with us changing in the car park at the Belfry.

And we wonder why less and less youngsters are taking up the game.
 

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My club has a nice locker room with seats and everything so you can change your shoes in comfort. You can also change your trousers, shirt, socks, shreddies as well. We also have a car park where you can park your car.

When I wore a younger mans clothes I was a reasonable Rugby player, our ground had a car park where I parked my car, they also had a changing room where I put on my kit and boots. Come to think of it I also changed into my squash kit and shoes in the changing rooms and parked my car in the car park.

Now in all these sports I cant remember anyone changing in the car park, I cant remember anyone getting agitated about it either. So! Is it a golf thing where changing shoes in a changing room becomes an act held over from the spanish inquisition?

There are indeed Golf Clubs that are happy for you to change in the car park, they probably also let you wear jeans and trainers and use your mobile phone in the club house. If thats the environment you like to play golf in then the worlds your Oyster, go out there and find the club that dovetails with your expectations.
 

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There is a sign in the car park at Ranfurly Castle saying some members find it offensive that people are changing shoes in the car park!

This is the perfect message. Emphasis on the 'Some' but not saying it's banned.

The 'proper' place to change is in the changing room, but if you must use the car park, then go ahead. No big deal for me. Thare are certainly more important things to get upset about imo.

@SR. You didn't make a quick trip to Paisley today did you?
 

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When I worked at St Enodoc I started riding a bike again. I spoke to the club manager and asked where I could park it out of the rain and he said it would be fine around the back near the pro shop and changing room entrance. First day I arrived on it and no one bothered about it other than to have a look at the bike. Second day I arrived late morning for work and I had ridden through a down pour on the way in so started taking off my boots and leathers so as not to drip on the carpet in the bar. One of the elder members stormed over to me ranting about not being able to park "that thing" there and I should be using a changing room not the entrance way. I stood allowing him to carry on taking off my jacket and gloves while a small group of members gathered, some of which knew it was me and wispered that to others, until I finally took off my helmet. The guys face dropped to the floor as the gathered group roared with laughter. All I did was ask if he had played yet and that I would love a coffee with him when he got in from playing. As it was me then there was no harm done but a visiting player would have been extremely offended at the way he spoke to me.
I've been spoken to very harshly at a couple of other clubs when I've arrived on the bike to save space in the car for other team members and golf gear. For some reason bikers aren't ment to play golf apparently.
 

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I have never changed my shoes anywhere but in the car park and if any of the members care to remonstrate about it they will be told to beggar off and find something useful to do.
 

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Both clubs I was at in the UK both had the " Don't change your shoes in the car park " rule and had no problem obeying it.
Out here everyone changes shoes in the car park, no such rules .
If it's a rule of your club or club your visiting, what's with all this stupid rule talk, or do you take the rules of golf with an equal pinch of salt........
 
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Ive been a member of my club since last october and ive never even been in the changing room never mind changed in it. Ive looked through the window once but thats it. I always change my shoes stood next to my boot as do most other people, some people even have a flask with coffee in to sup while they get ready!

As long as people dont leave a mess i dont see any issue with it at all.
 

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The OP was mainly mentioning about the rudness not the shoe changing rule. Now if you club has one then your better off obeying it. However I think the no changing in the car park rule is been taken to far myself. I do not understand how changing your shoes, not tops, trousers etc, shoes can be offensive. It takes couple of minutes and hardly takes up lots of room.
 

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My club has a nice locker room with seats and everything so you can change your shoes in comfort. You can also change your trousers, shirt, socks, shreddies as well. We also have a car park where you can park your car.

When I wore a younger mans clothes I was a reasonable Rugby player, our ground had a car park where I parked my car, they also had a changing room where I put on my kit and boots. Come to think of it I also changed into my squash kit and shoes in the changing rooms and parked my car in the car park.

Now in all these sports I cant remember anyone changing in the car park, I cant remember anyone getting agitated about it either. So! Is it a golf thing where changing shoes in a changing room becomes an act held over from the spanish inquisition?

There are indeed Golf Clubs that are happy for you to change in the car park, they probably also let you wear jeans and trainers and use your mobile phone in the club house. If thats the environment you like to play golf in then the worlds your Oyster, go out there and find the club that dovetails with your expectations.
The difference is at golf the majority are already changed into their outfits and only need to put on golf shoes, at football if i was already stripped before going i would not go into a locker room to put on a pair of fitbaw bits.
 

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The OP was mainly mentioning about the rudness not the shoe changing rule.

This was what I took from the OP - not the rule that's wrong but the enforcement of the rule as with everything there's an acceptable method for the situation and the member making the complaint used the wrong method.

Personally I put my golf shoes on at home and drive up wearing them - as the members use the spike bar day-to-day I don't need my street shoes while at the course so why take them?
 

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When I'm visiting a golf course I've always regarded the locker room as for the members benefit so just change my shoes in the car park. Obviously if I had to change clothes then I would ask permission to use the changing room but if its a simple case of changing my footwear I don't see the point. In fact if I've finished my round and my shoes were muddy I'd think it more conscientious to not walk through with muddy shoes and instead just go change them at the car even if I was then going to go and get changed as well.
 

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This sort of thing winds me right up. My buddy and I are in our early 30s and joined a club this year and have a couple of run-ins with such people. On one occasion we were leaving the clubhouse going out into the rain. The pub was full as no one dared venture out. About ten steps from the door my buddy put his cap on

"NO CAPS IN THE CLUBHOUSE"

came the roar from some fat old muppet drinking his pint and terrified of getting wet. Everyone stopped and looked, what could he do but take his cap off for the remaining 2 seconds he was in the room. It was embarrassing for us but on reflection it should have been more embarrassing for him. What can you say?!

Thankfully these incidents are few and far between, but they do sour you towards a club, whats wrong with these people that they think upholding these rules in this way improves the club? Or are they just getting off on some modicum of power? Pathetic either way.

Rant over :sbox:
 
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