chrisd
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Take up bowls.
Not ballroom dancing?
A day at the range with JustOne.
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Not ballroom dancing?
Slime
Tour Winner
I actually found time to go to the range today.
I was trying to embrace all the swing changes that JustOne had recommended the other day.
I think I did pretty well and some of my mid-irons were like rockets with a hint of draw :thup:.
The important thing for me to remember was to concentrate on a better take-away and to keep my shoulders turning through impact to avoid 'stalling' and therefore just dumping the club behind the ball.
There was a lot to remember and every now and again a weak shot would remind me that swing changes are not quick fixes .................. they have to be worked at!
I also changed my driver set-up, again as recommende, and they were generally going really well. I think maybe I've lost a few yards but almost every drive would have been in play, and that's a bonus.
Thinking in print, (and this is aimed primarily at James because he was the one who told me that my goals were that of a tour pro), what should my expectations be in regards of FIR and GIR?
Slime.
I was trying to embrace all the swing changes that JustOne had recommended the other day.
I think I did pretty well and some of my mid-irons were like rockets with a hint of draw :thup:.
The important thing for me to remember was to concentrate on a better take-away and to keep my shoulders turning through impact to avoid 'stalling' and therefore just dumping the club behind the ball.
There was a lot to remember and every now and again a weak shot would remind me that swing changes are not quick fixes .................. they have to be worked at!
I also changed my driver set-up, again as recommende, and they were generally going really well. I think maybe I've lost a few yards but almost every drive would have been in play, and that's a bonus.
Thinking in print, (and this is aimed primarily at James because he was the one who told me that my goals were that of a tour pro), what should my expectations be in regards of FIR and GIR?
Slime.
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HomerJSimpson
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Good to see the progress is continuing. Keep working at the range and let us know how it goes on the course
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
FIR it doesn't matter.... count them if you want but missing a fairway isn't the be-all-and-end-all if you get reasonable distance (close enough to get your next shot on/near the green)
GIR off your h/cap you should be pleased if you hit 2, 3 would be nice, 4 would be a good round.... any more and you're punching above your weight
Getting on greens and learning how to 2 putt and walk off with a par is a skill in itself. Most high h/cappers get nervous (or too enthusiastic with expectation) and end up hitting a crap first putt.
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chrisd
Major Champion
I'm really pleased for you I know when we played that you wanted to make strides in your game and it's great that you're now able to spare the time to work on it - single figures on the way!
Slime
Tour Winner
Hey chrisd, I'm currently playing off single figures!
Two of them ........................... a 1 and an 8!
Good shooting at H4H by the way, I looked for you but didn't see you!
Mind you, it's been a year, you've probably just aged badly
.Slime.
Slime
Tour Winner
FIR it doesn't matter.... count them if you want but missing a fairway isn't the be-all-and-end-all if you get reasonable distance (close enough to get your next shot on/near the green)
GIR off your h/cap you should be pleased if you hit 2, 3 would be nice, 4 would be a good round.... any more and you're punching above your weight
Getting on greens and learning how to 2 putt and walk off with a par is a skill in itself. Most high h/cappers get nervous (or too enthusiastic with expectation) and end up hitting a crap first putt.
Fair enough, that actually makes sense now I'm thinking about it!
Thanks for that. I'll report back after my next outing!
Slime.
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chrisd
Major Champion
Hey chrisd, I'm currently playing off single figures!
Two of them ........................... a 1 and an 8!
Good shooting at H4H by the way, I looked for you but didn't see you!
Mind you, it's been a year, you've probably just aged badly
Slime.
Thanks. Wasn't West Hill a fabulous course and Rick and Richard just the tops
Oh, and I havnt aged badly, I've always looked old
Slime
Tour Winner
Perhaps I have then, well, my eyes anyway :thup:. Seriously though, I never saw you all day
.Slime.
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Don't understand what you mean by this. You are not going to hit a GIR from behind a tree or in a bush or in knee deep rough. But you have a much better chance from on the fairway. This game is all about accuracy.
JustOne
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No, it's about scoring.
I didn't say to hit all your drives behind trees, the post refers to missed fairways.... and that could be by 6 inches.
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Yep....and the more accurate you are, the better the chance you have to score well.
JustOne
Ryder Cup Winner
You hit a 200yrd drive straight down the middle
You hit a 350yrd drive into the first cut
Who has the best potential to score well?
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The one in the middle of the fairway :thup:
Slime
Tour Winner
I think the point he's making, as I see it anyway, is that the 'In Regulation' bit of the statistic is far more relevant at the pointy end of the hole, i.e. the green.
I'd sooner hit 5 GIR and no FIR than 14 FIR and 0 GIR as it's there that the scoring is done.
On a lot of courses round here I can miss the fairway by several feet & still have a chance of hitting the green, whereas if I miss a green by several feet I'll really struggle to get up and down .................... even if not in a bunker!
It's easier for me, generally, to get a par on a par four having missed the fairway in one rather than having missed the green in two ................ if that makes sense. It made perfect sense in my head!
Anybody, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm probably just having a brain fart!
Slime.
JustOne
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Sounds perfect.
Slime
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slime
If you can hit a green from the rough then you find it easier to hit the green from the fairway. You will have a better lie and fewer obstacles in your way.
Pretty simple stuff really.
If you can hit a green from the rough then you find it easier to hit the green from the fairway. You will have a better lie and fewer obstacles in your way.
Pretty simple stuff really.
richart
Major Champion
I would prefer to be in the rough 100 yards from the green than be in the middle of the fairway 200 yards from the green. If just hitting faiways was all you needed to do to score well, you could just hit a seven iron off the tee.
I would mention that I am normally 200 yards from the green and in the rough.
Also worth taking into account the type of rough. Links golf the rough can be very sparse where as parkland rough can be like barbed wire. Seve proved you can win the Open from the rough, John Daly the USPGA, where as the US Open you need to play from the fairway.
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Rich
I'm not suggesting hitting a 7 iron off the tee, just that it's more important to work on accuracy. A more realistic scenario is 300 yards in the rough if you try to smash it or 270 if you make a controlled swing (forum distances). Or maybe even a wild smash might only be 200 yards as it's quite likely to be a wild slice or hook which will lose a lot of distance.
As for Seve winning the Open and Daly the PGA from the rough, you are talking about one guy with possibly the most imaginative short game ever seen and another who had exceptional length and strength.
I'm not suggesting hitting a 7 iron off the tee, just that it's more important to work on accuracy. A more realistic scenario is 300 yards in the rough if you try to smash it or 270 if you make a controlled swing (forum distances). Or maybe even a wild smash might only be 200 yards as it's quite likely to be a wild slice or hook which will lose a lot of distance.
As for Seve winning the Open and Daly the PGA from the rough, you are talking about one guy with possibly the most imaginative short game ever seen and another who had exceptional length and strength.
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