7/7 Memorial vandalised on anniversary!!!

[CheltenhamHacker]

Ah I see so in BA's eyes Muslim headwear is in keeping with corporate image......

Islamic headwear is required as part of the religion in their eyes.

They believed that wearing a crucifix wasn't.

Surelybthe fact the law upheld her rights and said she could wear it destroys your argument that Britain is being weak and worried about offending people?

oh and if BA (a private company) think they will make more money by stopping people showing crucifixes, then that is their call, until it's deemed illegal

 

[Jensen]

Surelybthe fact the law upheld her rights and said she could wear it destroys your argument that Britain is being weak and worried about offending people?

Totally the opposite as you have just justified, as she had to take matters to court in the FIRST place !!!!!!

 

[Rumpokid]

Islamic headwear is required as part of the religion in their eyes.

They believed that wearing a crucifix wasn't.

Surelybthe fact the law upheld her rights and said she could wear it destroys your argument that Britain is being weak and worried about offending people?

oh and if BA (a private company) think they will make more money by stopping people showing crucifixes, then that is their call, until it's deemed illegal

Oh dear....Not looking good

 

[HomerJSimpson]

I'm not prejudice. I hate everyone equally :rofl::thup:

I do find it unacceptable in this day and age though that Christians are prevented from wearing their cross, an integral part of their belief for fear of upsetting other religions and yet burkhas etc are perfectly acceptable. Similarly lets not fly the St Georges cross or celebrate Christmas. We have people in our place that are allowed time out per day for prayers, observe things like Ramadam etc and yet trees, decorations and carols are banned.

With religion, and extremist militant behaviour as per the OP its always going to be contentious. If local authorities, employers and others were to treat each equally and respect all beliefs, I would hope, that more and more people would become more tolerant. We will never get rid of extremists and the hope has to be that the faith involved also see that behaviour as abhorrent.

 

[Jensen]

Oh dear....Not looking good

Friday soon to become how good old Sunday used to be......

 

[Rumpokid]

I'm not prejudice. I hate everyone equally :rofl::thup:

I do find it unacceptable in this day and age though that Christians are prevented from wearing their cross, an integral part of their belief for fear of upsetting other religions and yet burkhas etc are perfectly acceptable. Similarly lets not fly the St Georges cross or celebrate Christmas. We have people in our place that are allowed time out per day for prayers, observe things like Ramadam etc and yet trees, decorations and carols are banned.

With religion, and extremist militant behaviour as per the OP its always going to be contentious. If local authorities, employers and others were to treat each equally and respect all beliefs, I would hope, that more and more people would become more tolerant. We will never get rid of extremists and the hope has to be that the faith involved also see that behaviour as abhorrent.

Good points,but alas,the local authorities,government(past and present).,left wing yoghurt munchers,and the "it's my right" brigade,are all to blame,for the concerns that a lot of folk have today.

 

[Rumpokid]

Friday soon to become how good old Sunday used to be......

Hmmmm..Hope not..But it does get to much air time.

 

[woody69]

I'm not prejudice. I hate everyone equally :rofl::thup:

I do find it unacceptable in this day and age though that Christians are prevented from wearing their cross, an integral part of their belief for fear of upsetting other religions and yet burkhas etc are perfectly acceptable. Similarly lets not fly the St Georges cross or celebrate Christmas. We have people in our place that are allowed time out per day for prayers, observe things like Ramadam etc and yet trees, decorations and carols are banned.

Where exactly do you get this from? Where has there ever been an instance of a Christian person being banned from wearing their crucifix for fear of upsetting other religions in the UK?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Again it's people talking about isolated incidents as if they are the norm

Can't remember ever being told to not fly a St George's flag or celebrate Christmas

I even did both in Iraq and Afghan with no issues surrounded by all those evil Muslims

 

[woody69]

Likewise (apart from the "limp wristed hippy" bit obviously - [which by the way makes you sound like a fanatatical homophobe]) but given that I am yet to meet a Russian bloke (and have been to Moscow 3 times) with any semblance of manners then I think it is a pretty safe bet. Some of the women seem moderately better but it is difficult to form an accurate opinion when they are all dressed like a low rent call girl to be honest.

EYG (Enjoy your Guardian).

PS - I am also prejudiced against anyone who uses the term "LOL" who is over the age of 14.

Well you know what they say, meet someone and think they are an arse, he's probably an arse. If everyone you meet is an arse then you're the arse.

I apologise for my modern lexicon. I understand for some of a different generation they may not appreciate it.

 

[woody69]

Again it's people talking about isolated incidents as if they are the norm

Can't remember ever being told to not fly a St George's flag or celebrate Christmas

I even did both in Iraq and Afghan with no issues surrounded by all those evil Muslims

Indeed. Don't let a good old myth/isolated incident get in the way of facts though eh.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Where exactly do you get this from? Where has there ever been an instance of a Christian person being banned from wearing their crucifix for fear of upsetting other religions in the UK?

Tescos made the national press last year for banning a till operator for wearing one

 

[woody69]

Tescos made the national press last year for banning a till operator for wearing one

I have no recollection of that story and can't find any reference to it with a quick search. Got any links?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Tescos made the national press last year for banning a till operator for wearing one

Do you have any links to that story ?

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Here's a similar example. http://www.westbriton.co.uk/Nurse-banned-hospital-wearing-crucifix/story-11423496-detail/story.html I was sure it was Tesco or another famous UK name. I know BA have had similar issues. http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2010/1/19/crucifix-employee-goes-to-court I may have got the Tesco bit wrong it appears. Apologies

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Here's a similar example. http://www.westbriton.co.uk/Nurse-banned-hospital-wearing-crucifix/story-11423496-detail/story.html I was sure it was Tesco or another famous UK name. I know BA have had similar issues. http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2010/1/19/crucifix-employee-goes-to-court I may have got the Tesco bit wrong it appears. Apologies

But that's banning all necklaces though is it not ? As opposed to banning crucifixes specifically ?

And the BA case was overturned and the lady was allowed to wear it

 

[HomerJSimpson]

But that's banning all necklaces though is it not ? As opposed to banning crucifixes specifically ?

And the BA case was overturned and the lady was allowed to wear it

But surely the point is they should never have had to go to court to wear what their belief says.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But surely the point is they should never have had to go to court to wear what their belief says.

That will be down to company policy

The BA case was overturned as BA relaxed their policy to allow people to wear religious symbols - isolated incident as opposed to the norm

The NHS was purely down to not wearing necklaces in fear of patients grabbing them putting their staff in danger - so not specifically stopping someone wearing a crucifix on religious beliefs etc

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Well done Philip.. 17 pages of you defending Muslim Extremists :clap:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Well done Philip.. 17 pages of you defending Muslim Extremists :clap:

How dare you accuse me of such a thing !!! I have lost friends and work mates to such people so you can show me where exactly I have defend any Muslim Extremist.

You clearly don't have any brain matter instead your skull.