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Not really mate, Rory hasn’t got previous. Mud sticks.
Theres many people who have an axe to grind with Reed, Rory less so.
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Not really mate, Rory hasn’t got previous. Mud sticks.
Theres many people who have an axe to grind with Reed, Rory less so.
Crow
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Looks like just a bit of shouting to be done now.
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He's written down 3 anyway
He's written down 3 anyway
Rlburnside
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Crazy when you look at Rory v Reeds stats, Rory 1st in driving distance and accuracy etc Reed well down in driving and accuracy etc.
If only Rory was a better putter he would have walked this.
If only Rory was a better putter he would have walked this.
Beezerk
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Rory is just like Westwood, don't fancy them outside of 6 feet.
If you were to make up your Ultimate Golfer then I can't think of anyone you'd want more than Reed for pitching. He makes the 'awkward distances' look so easy.
davidy233
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Well Paddy America walked that
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Second place finisher Schauffele on his Presidents Cup team-mate..
davidy233
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Second place Schauffele on his winning Presidents Cup team-mate
garyinderry
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What I mean is rory getting relief from a ball bouncing in the rough gives some credence to reeds story.
BubbaP
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Did it bounce? I thought that was linked in to show he hadn't called an official over
Imurg
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It did bounce
Hard to see it on the clip but it doesn't seem to bounce as high as Reed's did.
Rory said he thinks it pitched, jumped and fell back into the pitch mark - Reed's definitely didn't.
If the bounce from Rory's ball, or Reed's for that matter, are making indentations in the earth through 2 inch rough then the course would be virtually underwater and no play would be possible and both drops would have plugged to the same degree
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And I think that’s what most of us would have done, waited for the ref?
The damning thing for me is what his fellow players are saying.
Sports_Fanatic
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Comments from Rory about Saturdays incident Rory McIlroy insists ball was embedded at Farmers Insurance Open | Golf Central | Golf Channel - YouTube
Interestingly he mentions Rory Sabbatini also had an embedded ball on 15th and did exactly the same (obviously no details whether it bounced or not). No reference to ruling from an official for that one either, and that it is common for players to mark their ball and check whether it's broken the service.
That was just mentioned as Rory's personal experience, so two players in one group had embedded balls in four holes. Feels like there were probably quite a few others that did the same yesterday if that's representative so I think Reed has been given an excessively harsh time on this one because of his history.
Interestingly he mentions Rory Sabbatini also had an embedded ball on 15th and did exactly the same (obviously no details whether it bounced or not). No reference to ruling from an official for that one either, and that it is common for players to mark their ball and check whether it's broken the service.
That was just mentioned as Rory's personal experience, so two players in one group had embedded balls in four holes. Feels like there were probably quite a few others that did the same yesterday if that's representative so I think Reed has been given an excessively harsh time on this one because of his history.
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Patrick Reed was found guilty of cheating the minute he picked up the ball
It was leapt upon by the likes of NLU and you only have to read their initial post to see that straight away the pitchforks were out for him - he was called a cheat straight away and by many of these other social media sites
Reading through the threads on there and you could see that they were unsure of the process and that they were demanding he be banned , kicked off the tour etc etc
Even when a few rules guys explained it to them that the process he followed was 100% correct - he followed the rules , that was still ignored because it was Patrick Reed
The tournament referee even stated that it was fine and that many other players had done the same this week
Now contrast that to the reaction to Rory who took the same drop for the same sort of embedded ball - called no referee over - no pitchforks , no statements of cheating - Rory even clarified that it happened a few times in his group on the Saturday and golf Channel also stated there was many areas on the course that were very soft under foot
Patrick Reed has an on course demeanour and attitude that not everyone likes , he has had rumours ( nothing confirmed ) floating around from college days and that mud has stuck - he was penalised for improving his lie once just like many other players have in the past
Seems to be a lot of this may stem from people just not liking him as he was going through the ranks - he didn’t confirm to the norm and that has given him a stigma , players like Woods and even Monty have had the same accusations about “manipulating” the rules in the past as well - they certainly haven’t been labelled a cheat
Patrick Reed is just going to feed of it all and just keep winning and prob stick two fingers up to the establishment - maybe that attitudes needed in a sport that still has the stuffy reputation
It was leapt upon by the likes of NLU and you only have to read their initial post to see that straight away the pitchforks were out for him - he was called a cheat straight away and by many of these other social media sites
Reading through the threads on there and you could see that they were unsure of the process and that they were demanding he be banned , kicked off the tour etc etc
Even when a few rules guys explained it to them that the process he followed was 100% correct - he followed the rules , that was still ignored because it was Patrick Reed
The tournament referee even stated that it was fine and that many other players had done the same this week
Now contrast that to the reaction to Rory who took the same drop for the same sort of embedded ball - called no referee over - no pitchforks , no statements of cheating - Rory even clarified that it happened a few times in his group on the Saturday and golf Channel also stated there was many areas on the course that were very soft under foot
Patrick Reed has an on course demeanour and attitude that not everyone likes , he has had rumours ( nothing confirmed ) floating around from college days and that mud has stuck - he was penalised for improving his lie once just like many other players have in the past
Seems to be a lot of this may stem from people just not liking him as he was going through the ranks - he didn’t confirm to the norm and that has given him a stigma , players like Woods and even Monty have had the same accusations about “manipulating” the rules in the past as well - they certainly haven’t been labelled a cheat
Patrick Reed is just going to feed of it all and just keep winning and prob stick two fingers up to the establishment - maybe that attitudes needed in a sport that still has the stuffy reputation
Rlburnside
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Yes I agree with you I think Reed was castigated wrongly.
Some commentators and certainly some on social media including on here we’re too quick to call him a cheat.
We will never know if he did cheat and I’m not saying either way, but to jump on the bandwagon and call him out as a cheat and tarnishing his reputation farther is just another way of online bulling.
rosecott
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There was no requirement to call a rules official.
From the PGA Tour on embedded balls:
"There is NO longer a requirement to announce to your marker or another player your intention to mark and lift the ball to check if it is embedded, but it is still good practice to do so."
Orikoru
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It does seem contradictory that if you land in a divot on a pristine fairway you have to play it as it lies, but if it embeds slightly in the deep rough you get relief?
if you plug on a fairway you get relief i think??It does seem contradictory that if you land in a divot on a pristine fairway you have to play it as it lies, but if it embeds slightly in the deep rough you get relief?
i suppose the Divot rule was open to abuse, but i think you should still get it if its a seeded divot, as you are just undoing what a greens keepers has done to repair, but thats not going to change anytime soon
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