2021 Professional Golf Thread

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On twitter @usegolffacts is interesting. Anti other players and pro Radiator Reed, his wife has been called out as the account owner.

Radiator= central heating=cheating. ;)
 

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Lift clean and place is nothing to do with this situation, that's for the fairway length grass.

He did the correct procedure, he marked his ball before checking if it was embedded.

The issue is how the apparent plug mark, or broken ground indentation, appeared when the ball had only bounced a couple of feet.

But he did not see the ball bounce, or did he? He has moved his ball before a ref saw it. Assumed the pitch mark is his. Then Calls a ref over. There’s just so much about this that is wrong. If a PP did this am sure most of us would say something.
 

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Have you read the relevant rule?

He believed it had plugged so he checked correctly, there's no requirement to call an official.

But that's not the query...

If your playing partner correctly checked to see if his ball had plugged, what would you have the need to say?

And there in lies the problem, he did not see. So he assumed.Coz he did not see it does not mean that it had plugged. And subsequent tv footage showed that Reed believed wrongly.
For me it’s like I believed I put my ball into a pond but did not see it happen. So do I drop at the pond 150 yds closer to the pin or play where I hit my original shot.

It a situation on here where we can agree to disagree.
 

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I don't know if it is that both courses this weekend have narrow fairways, but watching golf this weekend, and last, it is surprising how many golfers are missing fairways, often by miles. Is this a function of having 7500 plus yard golf courses, where drivers have to be hit 'eye balls out, not sure. Or is it a function of the rough miles off line not being penal enough. It looks fairly deep and lush at Torrey Pines, but it's no Carnoustie. Is it that there are a fair few dog legs, where it is more advantageous to cut the corner, than be on the short stuff.
 

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Reed is obviously aware the spotlight is on him again. It will be interesting to see whether it has a detrimental effect on him in the final round, or whether he thrives on the publicity and it spurs him on.

He's the type of character to thrive on it, he seems to really enjoy it.
 

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Having now seen McIroys similar example on 18, where it bounced all of a foot, and plugged, I am inclined to think it a storm in a teecup. Either that, or Rory is a cheat too. I think that fat Pat is getting a bum deal on this because of who he is, and the fact that he looks shifty.
 

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I don't know if it is that both courses this weekend have narrow fairways, but watching golf this weekend, and last, it is surprising how many golfers are missing fairways, often by miles. Is this a function of having 7500 plus yard golf courses, where drivers have to be hit 'eye balls out, not sure. Or is it a function of the rough miles off line not being penal enough. It looks fairly deep and lush at Torrey Pines, but it's no Carnoustie. Is it that there are a fair few dog legs, where it is more advantageous to cut the corner, than be on the short stuff.

It’ll be interesting to see it during the US Open
 

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Having now seen McIroys similar example on 18, where it bounced all of a foot, and plugged, I am inclined to think it a storm in a teecup. Either that, or Rory is a cheat too. I think that fat Pat is getting a bum deal on this because of who he is, and the fact that he looks shifty.

I'm past that, it's how he seems to fiddle about with where the ball landed after he picked it up. His hands were in the spot for quite a while, far too long to be feeling if the ball had made an impression.
 

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I'm past that, it's how he seems to fiddle about with where the ball landed after he picked it up. His hands were in the spot for quite a while, far too long to be feeling if the ball had made an impression.
Feels like reputation changes emphasis though. If their two situations were reversed I think people would be commenting Rory took time to assses and call rules official, where as Reed blamed for just deciding himself and dropping without thorough check. Obviously hypothetical so will never know but it wouldn’t surprise me.

I agree, incidents seem very similar so think it’s overblown on Reed, although I would advise him to stop taking drops ?
 

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In an area that was a bit drier ?‍♂️

Is this all because it’s Reed ? As was said by Golf Channel multiple people had the same drop including Rory on the 18th - the referee was there and checked and he appeared to think it was fine ?

Obviously suggestions of making the indentation by using his fingers to create it etc can’t be proved so if the ball did make a very small indent and with the rules they play to then his drop was fine - as the referee deemed so

Guess ultimately the only one who will know for sure will be Reed - anything else is just speculation



That’s where its different on the tour - it just needs to make a slight indent as opposed to being “plugged” - the indent can be very small as well - daft I know but that’s the rules they play. It’s not the embedded ball we would witness

As good as NLU can be, they’re certainly not immune from being part of inducing Twitter pile-ons and at times OTT criticism. They do like some golfers eg Spieth, Rory and Tiger and I’ve no doubt their reaction would be different if it were them
I’ll be listening to their next pod with interest of how they reference the Rory incident too.

It seems like it’s these rules that are the problem, and the fact it’s Reed has clearly made it worse - certainly because he’s got history of ‘stuff’
 

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I'm on the US feed, they've just spent 5 minutes showing Reed's & Rory's relief from yesterday with a rules guy, then had Faldo, Baker-Finch, Nobilo & Dotty all giving their views. The former pros were all going for - if any doubt then don't touch, leave the scene as is.
 
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It would be great if we could have the US commentary team
 
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