2019 Cricket

Dan2501 said:
Very true. Seen enough of Roy at Test level I think. Time to bring Sibley in.
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really hard to bring anyone in now, when was the last time they played championship cricket? over 4 weeks ago and counting. the last thing you want is to be making a test debut in the middle of an ashes series and the only time in the middle youve had is in the blast!!!

if anything happens short term expect they may sacrifice Denly and shuffle Roy down to 4
 
Dan2501 said:
Very true. Seen enough of Roy at Test level I think. Time to bring Sibley in.
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Really ? After 2 and half tests ? Are we going back to mid 90’s when players were in and out within 2 or 3 tests - it’s one of the reasons why Lathwell was binned after two tests. Got to give these guys a run in the team , plenty of players struggled in their first couple of series and come good so we have to stick with them. Chopping and changing is not going to help.
 
fundy said:
really hard to bring anyone in now, when was the last time they played championship cricket? over 4 weeks ago and counting. the last thing you want is to be making a test debut in the middle of an ashes series and the only time in the middle youve had is in the blast!!!

if anything happens short term expect they may sacrifice Denly and shuffle Roy down to 4
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No more difficult than it is for Roy being played as a Test opener, something for which he is completely unsuited.

For some reason the selectors seem to acknowledge that certain players aren't One Day men but apparently anyone can be turned into a Test player.
 
MetalMickie said:
No more difficult than it is for Roy being played as a Test opener, something for which he is completely unsuited.

For some reason the selectors seem to acknowledge that certain players aren't One Day men but apparently anyone can be turned into a Test player.
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I agree, have moaned enough about Roy not playing barely any CC cricket and even less as an opener, just think if you were going to pick the likes of Sibley give them a fair shot at the start of the series rather than trying to bring them in now, that does no one any favours

Its completely turfned on its head, 10 years ago we tried to turn test match players into ODI ones (cook, trott etc)
 
decent fightback, bit of luck needed and Aus suffering in the long session with only 4 bowlers and an older ball. lords deck as lifeless as ever, majority of balls struggling to carry through on day 1

if these 2 crack on after tea with another long session could actually put England in a decent position
 
Be interesting to see what England's average score for 5 wickets down is over the last 2 or 3 years.

Every Test match the over that period is like groundhog day, top order collapse with the lower middle order expected to score the bulk of the runs.

Maybe we should try the end of season club cricket trick of reversing the batting order. I suspect nobody could tell the difference.
 
We had a test specialist coach, we are great at test cricket and poor at the short form. We get a one day specialist coach, we win the world cup but the test team suffers. Am I the only one who thinks that the answer is to split the coaching duties as the two forms of the game are so different now.
 
GB72 said:
We had a test specialist coach, we are great at test cricket and poor at the short form. We get a one day specialist coach, we win the world cup but the test team suffers. Am I the only one who thinks that the answer is to split the coaching duties as the two forms of the game are so different now.
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Its probably a step past that where you have different coaching staff, selectors and in the main players.

Big argument with schedules as they are that no one should be playing more than 2 of the 3 formats, ie ODI and either Test or T20, the problem is financially none of them want to give up T20 financially, but you need to play test cricket to make your name (albeit that is slowly eroding). So currently the player makes their name in test cricket and then is financially rewarded via T20 (so players still want to play all formats for large parts of their careers). Some of the younger players now coming through are in effect trying to by pass the test cricket part (but arguably are poorer player because of it, at least in certain facets). Also very hard to practise what are in effect contrasting skills and be good at them all (doing 2 hours range hitting is hardly ideal for leaving the ball in a test match for eg)

If you look at the current set up who is genuinely good enough at all 3 formats? Stokes as an all rounder possibly? Archer maybe until he's playing far too much cricket. Other than that its hard to make a strong case for anyone in all formats. Sadly the same selectors picking all 3 sides are picking 7 or 8 players in all 3 formats and are blinded to the ever growing differences of the skills required for the different formats.

For eg; Root/Woakes shouldnt be playing T20, Roy/Bairstow/Buttler shouldnt be playing tests but currently theyre playing all 3 formats
 
I agree. In my naive view I would have people either playing one day and T20 or one day and test cricket. Start players in the one day side then filter them out to either T20 or Test squads depending on skills and temperament.
 
i can't quite make out why the aussies are showing mock concern after hitting a batsman on the head,esp after every ball was bowled straight at his head???

what did they think was going to happen?
 
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