Dan2501
Tour Winner
Well that was embarrassing. Remarkable win really.
2019 Cricket
- Thread starter fundy
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Well that was embarrassing. Remarkable win really.
Piece
Tour Winner
Please, please, please not Gary Ballance. This is a well trodden path and he has proven to be simply not good enough at Test level. Last time he was recalled he had made runs at County level and was found out again.
Agree with Bairstow analysis. Seemingly undroppable even though recent record is gash. Foakes is brilliant with the gloves and good with bat, yet won't have a look in.
I still think we have a massive problem with the openers. Roy and Burns aren't the answer for me. I'd prefer Roy lower down (Root at 3) and Burns nowhere near the side from what I've seen. That leaves Vince and Denly maybe to open...
I want Leach in instead of Ali. Ali, like Bairstow, living on past glories. Batting has gone south, just like Broad's did!
So...I'd have:
Vince
Denly
Root
Roy
Buttler
Stokes
Foakes
Leach
Archer
Broad
Anderson
Won't happen though!
Agree with Bairstow analysis. Seemingly undroppable even though recent record is gash. Foakes is brilliant with the gloves and good with bat, yet won't have a look in.
I still think we have a massive problem with the openers. Roy and Burns aren't the answer for me. I'd prefer Roy lower down (Root at 3) and Burns nowhere near the side from what I've seen. That leaves Vince and Denly maybe to open...
I want Leach in instead of Ali. Ali, like Bairstow, living on past glories. Batting has gone south, just like Broad's did!
So...I'd have:
Vince
Denly
Root
Roy
Buttler
Stokes
Foakes
Leach
Archer
Broad
Anderson
Won't happen though!
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
That just about sums up where we are at, I was with you until it became Vince and Denly opening the batting!
Piece
Tour Winner
I'm not with me either on Vince and Denly...I've no other option!!! Or open with Roy and Bairstow just like white ball cricket and given them licence to *** it...just like white ball!!
I was watching the build up to today earlier and Nasser raised an interested point in his selection (he had Roy at 4). Just pick any 2 openers. Its almost irrelevant, they've all got massive weaknesses, failures and similar records. Just pick any of them and get on with it
Very disappointing climax. While Woakes in particular was blistering, those on here who mentioned Ireland's brittle batting were spot on but I thought they were as bad in shot selection as England on the first day. I hoped they would be able to make a far better fist of the chase. I hope they can learn form it and it also acts as a wake up call for England ahead of the ashes
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Got to laugh that Root says he has no concerns about England's batting.
He's fooling nobody with that statement and if he actually believes it he's in the wrong job....
He's fooling nobody with that statement and if he actually believes it he's in the wrong job....
Dan2501
Tour Winner
So, after that and considering it a bit more I'm going:
First Test: Roy, Sibley, Denly, Root, Ballance, Stokes, Foakes, Woakes, Broad, Anderson and Leach
2nd Test: Archer -> Woakes.
First Test: Roy, Sibley, Denly, Root, Ballance, Stokes, Foakes, Woakes, Broad, Anderson and Leach
2nd Test: Archer -> Woakes.
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Ballance isn’t going to play , is he even in the “squads†?
He has had his chances ( multiple) - time to move on from him
The team will imo be
Vince
Burns
Roy
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Would love them to go for Foakes instead of Bairstow and Leach instead of Ali but not going to happen
He has had his chances ( multiple) - time to move on from him
The team will imo be
Vince
Burns
Roy
Root
Bairstow
Buttler
Stokes
Ali
Woakes
Broad
Anderson
Would love them to go for Foakes instead of Bairstow and Leach instead of Ali but not going to happen
Interesting, especially how much some are polling https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49130551
richart
Major Champion
So a week before the Ashes, he is going to say he is worried about the batting. Aussies would love that.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49138107
As expected Leach’s reward for bailing out England when they were looking to get embarrassed is to be dropped for a player who is a worst bowler and currently is shocking with the bat
Looking at the squad announced its going to be
Roy
Burns
Denly
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Broad or Archer
Anderson
As expected Leach’s reward for bailing out England when they were looking to get embarrassed is to be dropped for a player who is a worst bowler and currently is shocking with the bat
Looking at the squad announced its going to be
Roy
Burns
Denly
Root
Bairstow
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Woakes
Broad or Archer
Anderson
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Deleted member 3432
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10-3 after 6 overs as usual then...
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
Root criticised the pitch. He really has become an irksome, irritating, whingeing individual. Takes no responsibility as captain, always blames someone or something for England's batting issues. Leach showed how to bat on that wicket, shame his team-mates couldn't follow his lead.
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
What can Moeen do that Leach cant? At least Leach knows he's a number 11. Moeen will just clog up the lower order whilst batting no better than a number 11.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
Foakes MOTM for showing the batsmen how to bat, DROPPED
Leach MOTM for showing the batsmen how to bat, DROPPED
Seems its far better to be perceived a great batsman than actually gutsing it out and scoring a few runs lol
Not sure I buy the excuse of needing 7 seamers in a home match squad either
Leach MOTM for showing the batsmen how to bat, DROPPED
Seems its far better to be perceived a great batsman than actually gutsing it out and scoring a few runs lol
Not sure I buy the excuse of needing 7 seamers in a home match squad either
Piece
Tour Winner
The pitch was fine. Poor technique and favourable selection policy, Mr Root, are where the problems lie.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
My fav tweet on this matter:
Poor of Root to publicly criticise the pitch. Groundsman in his first year, just had to prepare a WC final wicket (which produced one of the best ever ODIs) and an Ashes Test in two weeks. Keep it for your report. Needless pressure on someone new to the job. Rant over...
Not heard Root complain about the endless poor pitches hes filled his boots on recently whilst the bowlers have toiled away, I know hes deflecting but still poor comments for me and comes across as someone very worried about whats coming in the Ashes
Mudball
Assistant Pro
The book arrived today.. ordered a second hand copy for about seven quid. Not sure the boy will read it (though he seems to be thumbing thru it every few hours).... More than that, he could use it for weight training. Its a tomb of a book at about 700 pages!!!
BTW, just watched a movie called 'Death of a Gentleman' on Prime. its starts off wondering if Test Matches are dead, but then goes onto talk about how BCCI, ECB and CA (not just BCCI) are ruining the game. The BCCI gets a lot of kicking. It reminds me of Ferrari and its role in F1 were they too threatened to start a rival competition. Big people like Ecclestone and Ron Dennis being involved as larger than sport. I guess every game probably has something like this...
Tongo
Journeyman Pro
Death of a Gentleman is an excellent film. Really highlights the greed at the highest levels of the game. Giles Clarke comes across as a right tool as well!
