2019 Cricket

[Tongo]

Batting looking like it often does unless on a road, no doubt there will be plenty of "its how we play" comments in the press conference

Quite simply England appear fine when they play on pitches that are prepared for run fests (i.e. practically every ODI outside of the World Cup and the Champions Trophy) but dont seem to have the nous to realise that the two major 50 over competitions are different and will present different challenges.

 

[fundy]

Quite simply England appear fine when they play on pitches that are prepared for run fests (i.e. practically every ODI outside of the World Cup and the Champions Trophy) but dont seem to have the nous to realise that the two major 50 over competitions are different and will present different challenges.

Yep been saying it for a long while and the ECB shoul be carrying a huge amount of the blame for wanting to play on 350 par wickets in the run up

When they were getting people to select their all time England ODI side before this tourney people were picking 4 or 5 batters from the current side on the basis of how many runs they get on the legside on a road. Techniques get horribly exposed as soon as it does anything at all and most of them dont have the mindset to be able to adjust even a little bit. Bairstows technique exposed horribly yet again but all will be fine when he slogs a hundred on a flat one again

Good job the Aussies continue to pick Stoinis rather and Coulter Nile or Marsh for eg as we'd be in even more trouble here

 

[fundy]

How bad do you have to be to review that lol

 

[fundy]

add buttler to the list lol. how do you get out to a pie from stoinis like that

 

[fundy]

Stokes showing more brains than the rest of them again but thats top class from Starc

 

[Tongo]

Stokes showing more brains than the rest of them again but thats top class from Starc

In some respects England have not moved on from the 2015 World Cup. They are still obsessed with stats, its just now its bowling pace and strike rates. Too much emphasis on statistics and not enough on reading match situations and adapting to different scenarios. They are too rigid, just in a different manner to four years ago.

 

[Tongo]

Moeen Ali once again failing in a pressure situation. the commentators on TMS were questioning why he came in after Woakes. That's why, cos he's a glorified tail ender who clouts runs when England are on top. You'd think as commentators / analysts they might have been able to deduce this.

 

[fundy]

Have to hope Roy is fit enough to play at the weekend, if we win the toss we have to choose to bat first as look to have no idea of how to build a chase. Short term fix albeit

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Just not great chasing scores on wickets that are doing a little - they need to play smarter

Vince isn’t good enough to open - that was a great ball but he just can’t do it at the higher level

Root was a great ball but seemed a bit stuck

Bairstow , Morgan and Buttler threw their wicket away , Ali fails again


Really need Roy fit - maybe we can bring in someone from county cricket

 

[fundy]

Just not great chasing scores on wickets that are doing a little - they need to play smarter

Vince isn’t good enough to open - that was a great ball but he just can’t do it at the higher level

Root was a great ball but seemed a bit stuck

Bairstow , Morgan and Buttler threw their wicket away , Ali fails again


Really need Roy fit - maybe we can bring in someone from county cricket

Alex Hales anyone?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Alex Hales anyone?

Tom Banton is the man 👍

 

[fundy]

Tom Banton is the man 👍

not like you to suggest a Somerset player Phil 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

 

[Tongo]

Tom Banton is the man 👍

Or Sam Hain

 

[Deleted member 15344]

not like you to suggest a Somerset player Phil 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

😂 of course but thankfully for us he won’t be picked

Or Sam Hain

Great shout as well

 

[fundy]

Theres a few decent enough options about, not sure the timing would be right for any of them, cant see them looking past tried and tested options if they were to bring someone in and that will only be if Roy loses his fitness battle and it seems most expect him to play at the weekend

 

[Bunkermagnet]

They look like they belive their rankings. The bowling was too shabby, and started the problems.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Vince isn't the answer and hasn't produced at any level for England. They looked inept yesterday as though the pressure of being favourites and the realisation of the task is becoming to much. Too many poor performances especially with the bat. Two big games ahead now and on current form I can't see how England can get a win in either

 

[fundy]

Lets see just how good you are then Kane as its over to you again!

 

[Junior]

Lets see just how good you are then Kane as its over to you again!

In theory this time its easier than his match winning knock in the last game as NZ are batting first. That hundred under the gun in the last game against WI was superb. Chanceless, and the wicket wasn't great either. IMO, thats the difference between, Kohli, Williamson and Smith. and Root, Buttler, Bairstowe, Morgan etc. They do it under the gun more. We're close, but the aggressive nature of our game sometimes goes against us. As with the new ball yesterday, it was hooping around at the start and the Ozzies weathered the storm first, we didnt. Granted, there were a few good nuts thrown down by Starc.

Fwiw, I think Vince is still the best of our second line of players. Shame Hales enjoyed the marching powder so much as we really needed him.

 

[Dan2501]

Brilliant spell this from Shaheen, such good control of length.