Old Skier
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They need reminding that the 20 bit is about overs and not minutes.
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They need reminding that the 20 bit is about overs and not minutes.
Tongo
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Ireland all out for 172 against Afghanistan having been 80 odd for 8 and already there's people saying they shouldnt have been granted test status.
I ask this though: how many of the current test playing nations would do any better against this Afghan attack in these spin friendly conditions? Other than India i think almost every other team would be struggling.
I ask this though: how many of the current test playing nations would do any better against this Afghan attack in these spin friendly conditions? Other than India i think almost every other team would be struggling.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
WOW, most ridiculous appointment of the year goes to Durham.
On what basis do you pick an international cheat, who is turning up late for his stint as overseas pro to go to an awards cricket dinner in Aus, as your county captain for the season? Seriously?
On what basis do you pick an international cheat, who is turning up late for his stint as overseas pro to go to an awards cricket dinner in Aus, as your county captain for the season? Seriously?
maybe there is some sanding down that needs doing in the clubhouse?
Dan2501
Tour Winner
Saw yesterday that Surrey opener Will Jacks made a hundred in a T10 game off 25 balls 
Hit Stephen Parry for six 6's in an over that went for 37. Impressive hitting that.
Hit Stephen Parry for six 6's in an over that went for 37. Impressive hitting that.
Mudball
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Watching the IPL today.. some interesting games already. Arnold’s 19 ball 50+ to rescue his team was a sight to behold.
More importantly looking at the various Indian rookies is fascinating. Looks like teams have picked all the Indian U19 teams. What a platform it provides for these kids to share training or play against the likes of Bolt, Bairstow, Bumrah. The future of Indian cricket is in safe hands ..
More importantly looking at the various Indian rookies is fascinating. Looks like teams have picked all the Indian U19 teams. What a platform it provides for these kids to share training or play against the likes of Bolt, Bairstow, Bumrah. The future of Indian cricket is in safe hands ..
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Really shocking level of sportsmanship from Ashwin in the IPL - not in a million years in the spirit of the game , Buttler was still in his crease when Ashwin jumped up for his bowling action then deliberately stopped knowing Jos would walk out and then whipped the bails - the umpire should have dismissed the appeal immediately
Mudball
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Legal action but against the spirit.. did not watch the match.. did Ashwin warn him during the previously ??
Link here >> https://www.iplt20.com/video/154485
Slab
Occasional Tour Caddy
Not a cricket fan or follower so there’s clearly some intricacies that mean players expect that they can gain the advantage and usually hope to be warned before any action is taken against them based on an unwritten code (fair enough if that’s how they want to run their game but to an outsider the batsman got what he deserved)
If not fascinating it is at least interesting how folks can play/spectate across multiple sports and are able to move their personal morality regarding rules compliance to each sports own rules
Take rugby, football, cricket and golf, you’d think the normal behavior would be that one compliance standard will dictate the actions/morality across all sports (so if you think its fine to claim a corner in football when you know you touched the ball last, then that standard would also apply to your golf. Or if you call a penalty on yourself for accidentally moving your golf ball 5mm when 250 yards from the hole you’d never dream of taking a throw-in 5 or 10 yards from where the ball actually left the field of play, or step outside the crease)
But it seems many are able to take any advantages simply based on the probability of getting penalized rather than what’s the correct & proper thing to and change the standard based on what sport they are playing
If not fascinating it is at least interesting how folks can play/spectate across multiple sports and are able to move their personal morality regarding rules compliance to each sports own rules
Take rugby, football, cricket and golf, you’d think the normal behavior would be that one compliance standard will dictate the actions/morality across all sports (so if you think its fine to claim a corner in football when you know you touched the ball last, then that standard would also apply to your golf. Or if you call a penalty on yourself for accidentally moving your golf ball 5mm when 250 yards from the hole you’d never dream of taking a throw-in 5 or 10 yards from where the ball actually left the field of play, or step outside the crease)
But it seems many are able to take any advantages simply based on the probability of getting penalized rather than what’s the correct & proper thing to and change the standard based on what sport they are playing
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No warning was given - the rule appears to be if the batsmen is still in the crease at the expected release of the ball - when you watched it Ashwin was in the air to deliver then just didn’t bowl whilst Buttler just wandered - Ashwin also has form with him trying it a few times and previous captains telling him to quit it - this time he was Captain . This is going to rumble on for a while
I’m struggling to see what that post has in connection to it ?
Is it pointing at posters morals ? Jos Buttlers ? Then going on about football and golf ?!
Buttler wasn’t looking to gain an advantage
HomerJSimpson
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While it's not in the spirit of the game technically there is nothing wrong although you would have thought a warning would have been given first. I really can't see the umpire ignoring the appeal and turning it down and I would have hoped Ashwin's team mates would have pointed out as captain it was perhaps not the ideal example to be setting. I can see there being the usual media and social media hype for a while as it was clearly pre-meditated by the way he stopped his delivery to let Butler walk out of the crease.
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Probably the only way he could get him out!
Shocking way to play the game, Ashwin looks like he had no intention to deliver the ball.
If he wants to play the game that way fine but he could find himself on the receiving end quite quickly...
Shocking way to play the game, Ashwin looks like he had no intention to deliver the ball.
If he wants to play the game that way fine but he could find himself on the receiving end quite quickly...
Mudball
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I am not sure i completely understood the post.. but IMO, we always have a positive bias towards the team or player we support. If I was an Ashwin or a Punjab XI fan then I would find a way to justify his action (which was technically valid tbh but not in the spirit). A few weeks ago Man U played PSG and MU was awarded the game-changing penalty for the late handball. The next day, me and my mate (PSG supporter) had a lot of arguments about it - with him claiming that it not a deliberate handball. Now if the same situation arose in an England v Germany game, I am sure he would argue it was deliberate handball by the pesky Germans. Rules are Rules but spirit is what one thinks how the game should be played by the opposition...
Edit from Cricinfo:
Is this the first time Ashwin has Mankaded a batsman?
No. He ran out Sri Lanka's Lahiru Thirimanne the same way during an ODI in Brisbane in February 2012, but Virender Sehwag, India's stand-in captain, withdrew India's appeal and allowed Thirimanne to continue his innings. Ashwin has been a vocal defender of mankading on social media as well.
Is this the first time Buttler has been dismissed in this manner?
Again, no. Sri Lanka offspinner Sachithra Senanayake had caught Buttler wandering out of his crease during an ODI at Edgbaston in June 2014.
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Mudball
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Oh Dear.. it is getting contagious . watching IPL highlights of the CSK v Delhi game.. Harbhajan Singh stopped in his stride twice already. The first time he warned the non striker.
If he carries out his threat then my only hope is that the CSK skipper is the fabulous MS Dhoni and he will prevail over his bowler. It’s a good mental deterrent rather than something to be used. A bit like a North Korean nuclear weapon
If he carries out his threat then my only hope is that the CSK skipper is the fabulous MS Dhoni and he will prevail over his bowler. It’s a good mental deterrent rather than something to be used. A bit like a North Korean nuclear weapon
Karl102
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OK ok ok... I will hold my hands up.... I have done it... But.... In my defence, it was a close game and the none striker was literally trying to steal runs, even if the ball went through to the keeper. As I got to the crease from what was a long run up In them days he would sprint before I barely got to my delivery stride. I warned him once and told the umpire. Then 'dobbed' him as we called it... Was Buttker trying to steal runs I don't think so....
In Durham's defence they are in a bad financial state, thank you ECB, and this was an opportunity to get a test player for 2 full seasons, no doubt at a heavily discounted rate. It's where Durham are at the moment.
On the run out issue, again I'm late to this party, the guy was an embarrassment. Butler wasn't stealing a run, he was still behind the crease when the guys front foot landed. I don't like sledging but I'd sledge the hell out of this guy for the rest of the tournament 🤬🤬
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
I agree Durham been horribly treated by the joke of an ECB in recent years. Pretty sure Bancroft was in as bad a position if not worse yet Durham have rolled out the red carpet and stuck 2 fingers up to all their home grown players. Glad its not my county as think hes in for a tough time in charge of an ordinary side and is gonna have to go way beyond to get the full respect of the dressing room.
Check out the Durham squad https://www.durhamcricket.co.uk/players-and-staff/senior/ . Stokes and Wood will be away on England duty so what is left is mighty slim. With Collingwood having retired there was no natural captain to step up. They can offer a package to Bancroft, captaincy for 2 years, get redemption. Durham get a test player for 2 years, cheaper rate, hopefully he doesn't clear off to 20-20 around the world but I assume that is already agreed. The local lads can just get on with their own game and in 2 years time hopefully one of them will have progressed enough to take over. That player doesn't exist at the club at the moment, I would suggest. They have lost a good number of players since the relegation, just before as well as they could see what was coming.
Durham have an exceptional record of bringing through local players and the current squad is no different. I doubt any of that current group feel put out, their records are not good enough to make that claim.
Durham have an exceptional record of bringing through local players and the current squad is no different. I doubt any of that current group feel put out, their records are not good enough to make that claim.
fundy
Ryder Cup Winner
That same situation been the making of a lot of young players who go on to become great captains, maybe mindset has changed since my playing days! I knew your squad had been cherry picked didnt realise it was that bad, wow theres not much there is there. I guess if any of them are close to good enough theyre going to get plenty of chances to prove it!
Kellfire
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The moment I started playing competitive cricket I was taught (as I was a spinner and thus would have occasion to check my delivery) to watch the batsman leaving the crease before the ball left my hand.
"Against the spirit" is such a nonsense thing. Buttler messed up by not watching the delivery.
"Against the spirit" is such a nonsense thing. Buttler messed up by not watching the delivery.
