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Its hard to get excited / interested about another international match involving India (7 in the last 17 days on 2 continents) with another super over or India completing a comfortable run chase.

I agree... they seem to have played 3-4 countries in the space of 2 months or so. Gone are the days when a series was 3 test match and 5 ODI that last about 2 months. Nowadays they seem to be nipping in and out of counties to buy a pint of milk.
 

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U19 world cup :eek::mad:

Where do you stand ?????? Warning / No warning or pure shithousery and should be banned ?
Hateful act. If a batsman is taking the mick then stop mid stride and warn. After that it is down to the batsman. In this instance the batsman is out of the crease but not running etc. I'd be giving the bowler a volley of abuse and take the fine and ban. I'd also be winding our quickest bowlers up to bounce his smarmy head off.

I'm not a fan of it.
 

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U19 world cup :eek::mad:

Where do you stand ?????? Warning / No warning or pure shithousery and should be banned ?

Not a big fan.. but..

(Generally) the reality is that the batsman is also ‘cheating’ by taking a few steps. So the bowler is well within his rights to ask for it. He should however warn the guy first. If this is banned then they should ban the non striker leaving the crease or allow the bowler to over step the mark and still be allowed

(In this case) don’t know if the batsman was warned before. I must also say I am a big fan of the Afgani cricket - the backstory is astounding. Not so much about the Pak cricket ... so I m not going to shed any tears here ?
 

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You could argue that it was great skill to stop like that and react to take the bails and it is legal but there is something about this and it's not the first incident in recent years, that is totally unsavoury. If they change the rules does that give the batsman even more leeway so where is the balance? Do it once and the batsman gets a warning without being out, and do it twice then give it?
 

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You could argue that it was great skill to stop like that and react to take the bails and it is legal but there is something about this and it's not the first incident in recent years, that is totally unsavoury. If they change the rules does that give the batsman even more leeway so where is the balance? Do it once and the batsman gets a warning without being out, and do it twice then give it?
There is no skill in it. Simple enough when it is in your head. They stop in the bowling stride, much easier than say the run up. It isn't like stopping a golf swing.

They don't need to bring a rule in, my opinion. Teams should agree a general etiquette, one warning then after that you are fair game. It has pretty much worked that way for years so it is not new.
 

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Time for the ICC to make the rules clear and everyone to get on with it imo, can see both sides tbh (some batsmen are 4 or 5 yards down in the closing stages of limited overs games)

As it exists currently if I was a captain Id clarify at the toss where the line was (0 warning/1 warning/ no mankads) and instantly out the oppo skipper if he wanted to renege on what was agreed
 

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Was at the parent's briefing at Surrey performance academy today as my son plays there. Ran into good ole Kevin Pieterson. Never realised how tall he is. At 6'4 he is massive for a cricketer. KP may have a reputation inside the ropes but a gentleman outside it. Posed for photos with some of the boys and high-fives. My son was speechless
 

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Whod have thought an attack of Woakes, Curran, Curran, Jordan and Parkinson wouldnt cut it at international level :eek:

De Kock (and Bavuma) made it look very very easy on a dirt slow pitch
 

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Amazing how in the last 6 years, when captains were banned for slow over rates, India were never penalised. Since that punishment has been removed theyve been fined 3 times in a week lol. Surely coincidence :eek:
 

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Amazing how in the last 6 years, when captains were banned for slow over rates, India were never penalised. Since that punishment has been removed theyve been fined 3 times in a week lol. Surely coincidence :eek:

anyone would think the BCCI had some sort of influence over those that supposedly run the game
 

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just saw the outcome of the India v NZ ODI match.. India makes some 340 ... NZ chases it down!!!!.. Madness that 700 runs get scored and it is considered normal . Of course having small grounds in NZ help
 

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So Jofra Archer has a stress fracture in his elbow, took long enough to diagnose!

Costly timing to miss the IPL, wonder how many more times he'll risk getting injured by being flogged by England in the future
 

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So Jofra Archer has a stress fracture in his elbow, took long enough to diagnose!

Costly timing to miss the IPL, wonder how many more times he'll risk getting injured by being flogged by England in the future

He and Bhumra both have unconventional actions and are paying the price. Bhurma just retured to international duty after a few months of treatment in England ... Sounds like Jofra wont have to go fra
 

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So Jofra Archer has a stress fracture in his elbow, took long enough to diagnose!

Costly timing to miss the IPL, wonder how many more times he'll risk getting injured by being flogged by England in the future

Fast bowling is a stressful business on the body, just look at the Aussie quicks, but England do seem to be better than anyone else at hindering / compromising their bowlers full stop. There was an interesting article about Adam Riley floating around earlier in the week detailing how he was supposed to be the new Graeme Swann but, once he got involved with the Lions set up, he was 'encouraged' to bowl quicker and flatter and it totally ruined his action to the point where he has now stopped playing the game. Shades of what happened with Panesar. So England are just as adept at ruining spinners as they are quicks.
 

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Saw something that said Archer was the most used bowler by a long way and yet Root tries to defend his use https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/51429134

Surely there has to be a realisation that we have a potentially game changing bowler but that he can't be flogged to death in all formats. Can't see the penny dropping soon though and with Anderson and Broad coming to the end of their career soon, surely we are at a juncture where the up and coming quicks need to be given exposure against the best sides and given time to learn their trade so we have players to take the burden off Archer
 
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