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How many genuinely good spinners have we had though?
Having only followed cricket since about 2005 the only one who was world class was Swann

none for a very very long time, swann was decent but not even he was world class (except in his own opinion), averaged 30 a piece for his wickets in tests, no real surprise with the wickets we play on over here, spinners only really get a go when all of the seamers have been tried a couple of times :)
 

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I’ll agree with the annoying personality/ ego but I still think he was properly good
Nathan “the GOAT” Lyon Australia’s supposedly best ever offie has a worse average than swann’s
 

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none for a very very long time, swann was decent but not even he was world class (except in his own opinion), averaged 30 a piece for his wickets in tests, no real surprise with the wickets we play on over here, spinners only really get a go when all of the seamers have been tried a couple of times :)

When Monty Panesar first started he looked like he could be world class spinner but then he seemed to lose confidence. There was too much chat about his lack of ability with the bat and in the field, he seemed to flight the ball less and started bowling darts and became little more than a containing bowler. I dont think any of that was his making, rather the old England habit of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole / preferring jack of all trades, master of none players. I think if he'd just been allowed to bowl he'd have been a very good spinnner. In essence, he was Englanded out of the team!
 

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When Monty Panesar first started he looked like he could be world class spinner but then he seemed to lose confidence. There was too much chat about his lack of ability with the bat and in the field, he seemed to flight the ball less and started bowling darts and became little more than a containing bowler. I dont think any of that was his making, rather the old England habit of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole / preferring jack of all trades, master of none players. I think if he'd just been allowed to bowl he'd have been a very good spinnner. In essence, he was Englanded out of the team!

I feel for Monty... he was a character ... unfortunately at the end, he endup as just that - a bit of a caricature. There is a documentary on his mental side (on Prime?) talks about how things went pear shaped for him. Feel for him.
 

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I see the upcoming test series against England will be Philanders last international cricket. I wonder which county has promised him a lot of money as a Kolpak player (rumours are Warwickshire but would still have Surrey favs!!!)

Wade at Somerset next year too i see
 

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I’ve backed England to win the series 3-0 at 12/1. It’s a no brainier (but a heavy hearter) for me. We have 1 world class bowler (philander is past it with his injuries) and maybe 3 decent batsmen. The rest are just bang average.

As I have said before cricket in South Africa is in chaos. Now there is talk that the government want to nationalise sport in the country so they have full control!?!? FFS!
 

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I’ve backed England to win the series 3-0 at 12/1. It’s a no brainier (but a heavy hearter) for me. We have 1 world class bowler (philander is past it with his injuries) and maybe 3 decent batsmen. The rest are just bang average.

As I have said before cricket in South Africa is in chaos. Now there is talk that the government want to nationalise sport in the country so they have full control!?!? FFS!
Think somewhere we'll have our obligatory batting collapse (even with your attack) and so gift you a win or at best from an England perspective we'll get a battling draw out of it
 

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I see the upcoming test series against England will be Philanders last international cricket. I wonder which county has promised him a lot of money as a Kolpak player (rumours are Warwickshire but would still have Surrey favs!!!)

Wade at Somerset next year too i see

Looking like Somerset will sign Philander. He'll be a good asset for the County Championship. Might pop down the Rose Bowl when they play Hants.
 

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Frustrating day for both sides, England going to feel like they missed an opportunity but no Stokes and a couple of the others looking short of the best no real surprise

Expect this track looks quite lively when Rabada gets the ball in his hand tomorrow, 300 might look a lot by then

Hideous over rate yet again not even 83 overs in 6 and 1/2 hrs, over 7 overs short despite having the extra half hour and the ICC will continue to do nothing about it
 

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Over rates in cricket in general are a joke at the highest levels. But the recent rule changes, both at international level and to the county game, show how the authorities view this issue. Basically they dont care. More time people are at the ground, more time they are buying expensive, watered down alcohol. Everything at the highest levels is now about money. Cricket has surpassed Football in the avarice stakes. Its not even subtle any more.
 

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A could have been sort of day. Good to get 9 wickets but should really have got them all out and Curran apart none of the bowlers really looked on it. Stokes not bowling didn't help. I hope we haven't let them get too many and able to build a first innings lead but not overly convinced we have 350 in us
 

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A could have been sort of day. Good to get 9 wickets but should really have got them all out and Curran apart none of the bowlers really looked on it. Stokes not bowling didn't help. I hope we haven't let them get too many and able to build a first innings lead but not overly convinced we have 350 in us

King Johnny gonna help himself to 150 batting at 6 without the gloves to justify the selectors continued support lol. I wont be around here much if he does!!!!
 
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