You can talk to a fade but a hook doesn’t listen..

[harpo_72]

Strangely I find this untrue ... if I fade or block generally I am in recovery mode. If I hook or draw I am usually fine and playing a short iron. For a right hander I have noticed a lot of courses have trouble up the right so making the old adage untrue.
I suppose it’s more about the top spin roll and the ball continuing to move whilst on the ground and with an iron this is a nuisance. But hitting up the right side and letting the ball draw in or hook across to the left side second cut will always give an advantage..

 

[need_my_wedge]

No advantage here, my hook always puts me in the trees at ours ?

 

[BubbaP]

Isn't it fade/draw, slice/hook ?

As someone who's "moved", probably the biggest difference is being 1 foot fairway side from a tree the sliced shot is playabe (as right hander) but the hooked isn't

 

[Ethan]

Well, for me, a former slicer now a major hooker, I would love to have a fade. In my opinion, fades and draws both come from good mechanics, slices and hooks don't. If you ever see a pro hit a proper fade, the ball goes straight to the apex, then falls slightly to the right. A thing of beauty. The fade stays within a small corridor but even a draw, and definitely a hook, is always looking to escape.

 

[garyinderry]

I'm back in hook town.


While my weak wipes didnt go too far, they were much more predictable.


Attempting to weaken my grip a touch.

 

[ScienceBoy]

Strangely I find this untrue ... if I fade or block generally I am in recovery mode. If I hook or draw I am usually fine and playing a short iron. For a right hander I have noticed a lot of courses have trouble up the right so making the old adage untrue.
I suppose it’s more about the top spin roll and the ball continuing to move whilst on the ground and with an iron this is a nuisance. But hitting up the right side and letting the ball draw in or hook across to the left side second cut will always give an advantage..

It depends where you aim, I’m aiming left side so it’s the opposite.

 

[bobmac]

Strangely I find this untrue ... if I fade or block generally I am in recovery mode. If I hook or draw I am usually fine and playing a short iron. For a right hander I have noticed a lot of courses have trouble up the right so making the old adage untrue.
I suppose it’s more about the top spin roll and the ball continuing to move whilst on the ground and with an iron this is a nuisance. But hitting up the right side and letting the ball draw in or hook across to the left side second cut will always give an advantage..

I think the idea is a slice heading towards OOB will have more backspin than a straight shot so may stop short of the OOB. A hook however will have less backspin so will run more towards the OOB.
So when you shout stop, the slice will more likely obey than a hook will

 

[fundy]

Strangely I find this untrue ... if I fade or block generally I am in recovery mode. If I hook or draw I am usually fine and playing a short iron. For a right hander I have noticed a lot of courses have trouble up the right so making the old adage untrue.
I suppose it’s more about the top spin roll and the ball continuing to move whilst on the ground and with an iron this is a nuisance. But hitting up the right side and letting the ball draw in or hook across to the left side second cut will always give an advantage..

think youll find thats just a baby draw not a proper hook

 

[harpo_72]

Ah now there is the question when does a fade become a slice and draw become a hook?
I thought the difference was just down to planned or unplanned and not the physical amount of movement left or right

 

[Imurg]

think youll find thats just a baby draw not a proper hook

And if there's one person who knows it's Fundy..Steve's ability to hook is legendary

 

[bobmac]

Ah now there is the question when does a fade become a slice and draw become a hook?
I thought the difference was just down to planned or unplanned and not the physical amount of movement left or right

I was told years decades ago a draw is a shot that starts right and finishes on target. A hook starts right and finishes left of target. So yes, a bigger move in the air and often not controlled. Obviously the opposite direction for the fade/slice.

 

[rulefan]

I cured my slice many years ago when I learnt to play a reverse draw.

 

[BarryScott]

The perfect shape of shot is the one you can't play

 

[USER1999]

The perfect shape of shot is the one you can't play

Indeed. Presently, thats a faded iron. It's like it's impossible.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Back in hook town and they definitely aren't listening. No ideal in a medal round. Even managed the odd slice to make sure the right hand side of the course didn't feel unloved. Both weren't conducive to good scoring

 

[sunshine]

I think the adage only applies to the pros, who hit it miles and prefer a cut that stops quickly. For us handicap golfers I believe you get more value from a draw

 

[harpo_72]

The good news yesterday, was I managed to get myself back to basics and the driver was straight to 2 yard draw. The irons were generally okay but I did have a couple of pushes and a push fade. Which I think was commitment ... however none of them listened and I suppose it’s my fault for not complimenting the straight ones.

 

[Grant85]

I'd say generally a hook has more spin imparted and will generally have more speed, so I'd agree that it's, on balance, the more destructive shot.

 

[patricks148]

hook is far more distructive for me anyway, was hitting a fade with the driver, but changed shafts and now back drawing again. def my bad shot with the fade was better than the one with the draw

 

[ScienceBoy]

I find a draw or a fade hold onto target nicely, if it’s in the bunkers is blocked or pulled, anything outside is a hook or slice (assuming my aim was correct).