Worlds gone mad

MegaSteve said:
Perhaps not when it allows other 'stuff' to be swept under the carpet...

I might not appear to but I do get the bigger picture [mostly]....

A bit of outrage [however mild] against a very much tongue in cheek poster as against virtually zip about what we should be concerned about doesn't add up...

Lets be dealing with the 'big stuff' first and the rest [hopefully] should fall into place...
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What if the "small stuff" is a factor in the "big stuff"?
 
FairwayDodger said:
What if the "small stuff" is a factor in the "big stuff"?
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You know that flowchart that goes along the lines of "Is it Broken" Yes or No, "Did you touch it" etc? Well sorry but your question above doesn't fit into that so you can't ask it ;)
 
There is no reason why stuff like the Tunnocks advert and FGM cannot both be discussed. The fact is that they are not and it is staggering that something as abhorrent as FGM does not get more coverage from the media, government, society in general (including men) and especially feminist organisations.
Just yesterday a Muslim cleric in Ireland was quoted as saying female circumcision should be allowed under the law in Ireland and viewed in the same way as male circumcision. 5790 girls have been subjected to it in Ireland and a further 2639 considered at risk even though it’s unlawful.

You could say both the Tunnocks advert and FGM are part of the same problem but we all know which is the more serious aspect. Hopefully President Oprah will make a speech soon to condem FGM. Maybe then people will take notice. Or maybe many in Hollywood are lucky enough not to be able to say “me too”.
 
Dress appropriately for the work that you do. Nothing radical about that. If you want to be taken seriously then don't wear your Friday night gear, don't wear anything that may be deemed provocative. That applies to men and women.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Its the right move and the right step forward , it’s something that belongs in the dark ages - there is no reason for them to be three beyond watching old or fat men perv all over her ( Hence why Barnevld is complaining ) - I suspect if they walked on with two guys they wouldn’t be throwing the toys out if that stopped. Hopefully all the sports will follow their lead.
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A bit discriminatory on young & thin blokes that like an oggle.

It feels a bit over the top to me.
 
drive4show said:
I remember when the ladies at my club were told they would all have equal standing with the male members. They basically already did, they could play Saturday mornings etc unless there was a 'male only' competition (which wasn't that often) so they really didn't gain very much at all. They had to pay an extra £500 a year though and guess what......nobody actually asked them if they wanted this new deal or not but thanks to the PC brigade it was forced upon them.
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My mother in law told me a similar story.
She said that loads of women ended up not renewing membership because it was their husbands that paid for them anyway and they didn't play enough golf to warrant the new cost.... lol
 
Hacker Khan said:
As a father of a 11 year old girl, and therefore maybe possibly a bit over sensitive to this issue, I approve of any measure that encourages women and girls to aim for something bit more than looking nice to please men. As a hell of a lot of media images kind of promotes this.

There is a massive issue with teenage girls nowadays leading to mental health issues, a lot fuelled by traditional and social media, for girls to try and be seen to look attractive and having a great life. And any initiative that moves us away from that is fine by me.

Fully agree that darts girls is not the most pressing issue society has to address to try with regards to equality, and that this was led by the broadcasters who are mostly worried about the profit they can make from the sport, as opposed to equality for all. But as they say, every little helps. I am sure the darts girls who make their living from basically looking pretty will find a lot of other avenues to exploit in todays society so I can't feel that sorry for them to be honest.
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As a father of a 4 year old girl, I really couldn't care less whether darts have walk on ladies, F1 has pit girls, boxing has ring girls.

But as a father of a 1 year old boy, I am seriously concerned about David Gandy and his incessant need to promote his good looks in order to please women.

Out of interest, what jobs do you expect these darts girls to move into next?
 
Sweep said:
Is there a reason why darts is not a mixed sport? Genuine question.
Would it make any difference to this issue if it was?
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Because the women's averages are so significantly shy of the men's that they would not feature at all in a tournament.

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[TD="bgcolor: floralwhite"] Maria O Brien [/TD]
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The top 64 male averages are higher than the best lady. And she is quite a lot higher than second place.

http://tsod.tv/forum/viewtopic.php?t=14995
 
MegaSteve said:
Bare arms are hardly 'provocative'... Are they?
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No to be fair. I was extending the point made by the lady in the article. The point she was making was that men would never be in the same role and show off their full arms so why would women? It inevitably draws your eyes, most bare flesh does if even for a split second, and that takes you away from what the person is saying. There is no need to dress that way in a work environment. Feel free to mention Michelle Obama, she answers that one as well.
 
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