World Handicap System (WHS)

[Old Skier]

I have gone to do a scorecard on the app this afternoon, was about to submit it but I have put the wrong course down, is there any way of changing it to the right course.

Cheers

Best way out of this if you haven’t submitted this is to not do anything more on the app and ask your HC Sec to submit as a casual round.

For quite a few, the EG app needs some careful instructio which is why I suggest our members use the PSI for casual rounds completed at the home course or the ISV app and use the EG app when at an away course.

 

[2blue]

Thanks but call me thick I’m still confused ?. My HI is 16.6 and my course H/C is 17 , I assumed you just looked at the sheet in the clubhouse to find what your course H/C is and that’s what you play off.

As it's a new H/cap system operating in a different way it's no good assuming anything...... at least you are trying to get your head around it whilst many, including some stick-in-the-mud, H/cap Secs who are simply moaning on & on about it & some even against implementing the requirements.

 

[Rlburnside]

Depends on the format, if it’s singles stroke play it’s 95% of your course HC which will be 16.

So is it down to me to work the 95% of my course h/c before I play?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So is it down to me to work the 95% of my course h/c before I play?

Our place has 2 charts on the wall by the first tee, first one gives you your course h/c from your handicap index for what tee you’re playing off, the 2nd lists what 95% of course h/c for single strokeplay comps is and what 85% of course h/c is for 4BBB comps is.

Takes 5 seconds and is very helpful, might be worth suggesting the 2nd list to your Club if they don’t have one.

I believe every Club has the first chart.

 

[rulefan]

Thanks but call me thick I’m still confused ?. My HI is 16.6 and my course H/C is 17 , I assumed you just looked at the sheet in the clubhouse to find what your course H/C is and that’s what you play off.

You play off your Course Handicap for handicapping purposes but your Playing Handicap (95% of your Course Handicap) for competition results.
As HDID is about competitions it will show 16 but your EHD portal will show 17 as it is about handicapping. I guess other ISVs do the same as HDID.
The sheet in the clubhouse will be from HDID (or your ISV system). The Course Handicap is the figure that you put on your card.

 

[Rlburnside]

Our place has 2 charts on the wall by the first tee, first one gives you your course h/c from your handicap index for what tee you’re playing off, the 2nd lists what 95% of course h/c for single strokeplay comps is and what 85% of course h/c is for 4BBB comps is.

Takes 5 seconds and is very helpful, might be worth suggesting the 2nd list to your Club if they don’t have one.

I believe every Club has the first chart.

That 2nd list is a good idea ?

 

[Rlburnside]

Our place has 2 charts on the wall by the first tee, first one gives you your course h/c from your handicap index for what tee you’re playing off, the 2nd lists what 95% of course h/c for single strokeplay comps is and what 85% of course h/c is for 4BBB comps is.

Takes 5 seconds and is very helpful, might be worth suggesting the 2nd list to your Club if they don’t have one.

I believe every Club has the first chart.

So if two 17 h/cs roll up to play in a medal one looks at his course h/c and puts 17 on his card and the other one works out the 95% and puts his h/c down as 16

You play off your Course Handicap for handicapping purposes but your Playing Handicap (95% of your Course Handicap) for competition results.
As HDID is about competitions it will show 16 but your EHD portal will show 17 as it is about handicapping. I guess other ISVs do the same as HDID.
The sheet in the clubhouse will be from HDID (or your ISV system). The Course Handicap is the figure that you put on your card.

So to follow on if a player has no knowledge of the 95% calculation he will not know his correct net score until the results are published.

 

[Swango1980]

So if two 17 h/cs roll up to play in a medal one looks at his course h/c and puts 17 on his card and the other one works out the 95% and puts his h/c down as 16


So to follow on if a player has no knowledge of the 95% calculation he will not know his correct net score until the results are published.

The Rules of Golf require the Course Handicap to be on the card. There is no requirement to have Playing Handicap on it.

If you ONLY put Playing Handicap on card, you risk DQ. I say risk, it all depends if competition secretary decides you have NOT put course handicap on card, or they have been lenient and assumed your Playing Handicap was meant to be your Course Handicap. However, if they do that, they'd need to reduce your course handicap to playing handicap on system, thus you would lose an extra shot to get an even lower playing handicap.

Simple

 

[2blue]

So to follow on if a player has no knowledge of the 95% calculation he will not know his correct net score until the results are published.

Just the same as if he doesnt know rules or Comp T & C's he risks DQ in very many ways. Players have a responsibility to wise-up if they play in Comps.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

So if two 17 h/cs roll up to play in a medal one looks at his course h/c and puts 17 on his card and the other one works out the 95% and puts his h/c down as 16


So to follow on if a player has no knowledge of the 95% calculation he will not know his correct net score until the results are published.

Depends on the Card at the Club I suppose, we plan to have boxes with CH and PH on them, just like we have Handicap and Strokes Received boxes on our current (old) cards which we are using until they run out.

 

[Rlburnside]

It all seems a confused mess to me, think I’ll just put my course h/c on card and forget about the rest.

 

[rulefan]

It all seems a confused mess to me, think I’ll just put my course h/c on card and forget about the rest.

That's all that is required.

 

[Rlburnside]

Our H/C were to be updated at 5am this morning for some strange reason now it’s saying it’s still pending??‍

 

[rulefan]

So if two 17 h/cs roll up to play in a medal one looks at his course h/c and puts 17 on his card and the other one works out the 95% and puts his h/c down as 16


So to follow on if a player has no knowledge of the 95% calculation he will not know his correct net score until the results are published.

The score entry apps and PSIs tell him.

 

[Rlburnside]

That's all that is required.

Yes that’s what I thought but it would have been good to have a better understanding of the new system from the outset.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

It all seems a confused mess to me, think I’ll just put my course h/c on card and forget about the rest.

If you’re playing 4BBB it can be very useful to know which holes you and your partner are getting or losing shots at.

I’ll photograph the 2nd table at our Club tomorrow and post it so people can save it as a quick look up.

 

[Rlburnside]

The score entry apps and PSIs tell him.

At our club we have 2 sheets in clubhouse one Course Index one Course Handicap it seemed simple just look at the the Course Handicap to see what you play off.

Now that results have been published most players are wondering why their h/cs have been decreased by one shot

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Our place has 2 charts on the wall by the first tee, first one gives you your course h/c from your handicap index for what tee you’re playing off, the 2nd lists what 95% of course h/c for single strokeplay comps is and what 85% of course h/c is for 4BBB comps is.

Takes 5 seconds and is very helpful, might be worth suggesting the 2nd list to your Club if they don’t have one.

I believe every Club has the first chart.

That is so simple and helpful. It also highlights to players that the 95% and 85% reductions exist. Fair play to your club ?

 

[rulefan]

At our club we have 2 sheets in clubhouse one Course Index one Course Handicap it seemed simple just look at the the Course Handicap to see what you play off.

Now that results have been published most players are wondering why their h/cs have been decreased by one shot

Simple. They haven't bothered to read the information the club has given them. Or the club hasn't bothered to send it out.

 

[Rlburnside]

If you’re playing 4BBB it can be very useful to know which holes you and your partner are getting or losing shots at.

I’ll photograph the 2nd table at our Club tomorrow and post it so people can save it as a quick look up.

Thanks?