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World Handicap System (WHS)

GGTTH said:
That's what I thought to be honest but I was reluctant to join. I've left all my bookings so far open and nobody has joined in yet.
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Probably because other members don't know you yet.
Have you spoken to the club manager yet. It should be his job to help you.
 
Initial Handicap given to “new” golfer of 30, first comp he plays to 20, this will be his 4th card in total, first one with official handicap, how is this assessed in WHS?
 
pauldj42 said:
Initial Handicap given to “new” golfer of 30, first comp he plays to 20, this will be his 4th card in total, first one with official handicap, how is this assessed in WHS?
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His initial index was his lowest score from 3 rounds (lowest score differential) minus 2.0. Now he has 4 scores, his index will be his loweat score differential from the 4 rounds minus 1.0.
 
Swango1980 said:
His initial index was his lowest score from 3 rounds (lowest score differential) minus 2.0. Now he has 4 scores, his index will be his loweat score differential from the 4 rounds minus 1.0.
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Thank you, sorry, just to clarify, he will possibly be cut from 30 to 19?
 
rulefan said:
Probably because other members don't know you yet.
Have you spoken to the club manager yet. It should be his job to help you.
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When I moved up to this area and joined my club, my handicap had lapsed. I knew no one at the club. I put a note on the notice board asking for members to contact me to have a round and mark my card. I included my old handicap to give anyone who was interested some rough idea of my ability. In a day or so, I had two phone calls from members who offered to play with me and mark a card. As it happened I only played with one of them, but he remains a really good friend today. He introduced me to a couple of Roll Ups and I also joined the Seniors ( for the first time ever) and joined in their Roll Ups. I think I now know over 100 members to play with and chat .
perhaps this info may help you integrate more easily with your club. I’ve now been a member for 5 years.
 
Swango1980 said:
Not that simple. The score differential is (Adjusted Gross - Course Rating) x 113 / Slope. So, do that calculation, then minus 1
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Cheers.(y) Last question is it this for every “better” round until he has 20 then best 8 from 20?
 
pauldj42 said:
Cheers.(y) Last question is it this for every “better” round until he has 20 then best 8 from 20?
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No. As he hand in more scores, the calculation refines itself. So, for example, when 6 scores in (I.e 2 more from now), his Index will he average of best 2 minus 1.0, when 9 in average of best 3, when 12 in average of best 4, and so on. It becomes average of best 8 when 20 in. Thereafter, it stays average of best 8 of previous 20 rounds
 
Swango1980 said:
No. As he hand in more scores, the calculation refines itself. So, for example, when 6 scores in (I.e 2 more from now), his Index will he average of best 2 minus 1.0, when 9 in average of best 3, when 12 in average of best 4, and so on. It becomes average of best 8 when 20 in. Thereafter, it stays average of best 8 of previous 20 rounds
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Brilliant, thank you.
 
rulefan said:
Probably because other members don't know you yet.
Have you spoken to the club manager yet. It should be his job to help you.
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I've not had much of a chance to speak to anyone. Played one round so far and got chatting to an older gentleman who was very friendly and cruised around on his mobility scooter and gave me some tips on the course (including not to hit driver off hole number 3 as it'll lead to trouble, but I then proceeded to do that anyway and lost a ball :D ) . Got three tee times booked this week so going to speak to the pro tomorrow and hopefully he can help get something sorted. I don't really want to be in the situation where I need to go speak to him to get paired up everytime I wanna put a card in so it would be nice to meet new members and play a round with them and hopefully get some regular playing partners. I didn't just join just to play on my own all the time but there will be times where I probably just will for practice or whatever, I'd like to enter the medals and comps and mingle with the members and meet new people that I can play with on a regular basis. I'd also like a handicap not just for the comps but for myself and use it as a barometer for how well I'm doing. I.E if I see my handicap going down then that'll provide me with more motivation to improve etc.

I spoke to the administrator via e-mail when getting my membership originally and he sent out a pack of information but there was nothing on 'how to join comps/medals etc'. I'll speak to the pro tomorrow armed with some questions and hopefully get something sorted.

Am I also right in saying it doesn't need to be a member that can sign my card? As long as it's someone with a WHS handicap?
 
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GGTTH said:
Am I also right in saying it doesn't need to be a member that can sign my card? As long as it's someone with a WHS handicap?
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It's upto the club who can mark cards. You'll need to check with the pro. But many clubs require a fellow member but many are happy with anyone with an official handicap. The WHS rule simply requires 'a person who is acceptable to the handicap committee'.
 
A basic - however as we had the debate on 1st tee yesterday on calculating shots given/received in 4BBB. My understanding is that we each calculate 90% of our CH and each players PH being that after then rounding up/down. Shots given/received are calculated by difference of each players PH off the lowest PH. Is that correct?
 
I find that the 85% calc isn’t too difficult if you do it in easy steps. First I take 10% of handicap, then half that result and add the two. Round the answer and take off CH.

So for example if a player has CH of 27, 10% is 2.7, half that is 1.35 add the two gives 4.05 which rounds to 4, So PH for my 27 CH player is 23.
 
pauldj42 said:
Initial Handicap given to “new” golfer of 30, first comp he plays to 20, this will be his 4th card in total, first one with official handicap, how is this assessed in WHS?
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The full workings are It takes about 16 scores to be input to get to a handicap reflective of ability

Handicaps can jump around all over the place initially.

5.2 Calculation of a Handicap Index
5.2a For Fewer Than 20 Scores
A Handicap Index is calculated from the lowest Score Differentials in the scoring
record. If a scoring record contains fewer than 20 Score Differentials, the table
below is used to determine the number of Score Differentials to be included in the
calculation and any adjustment that may apply. Round the result of the calculation
to the nearest tenth.
Number of Score Differentials in scoring record and Score Differential(s) to be used in calculation of Handicap
Index
Adjustment
3 Lowest 1 -2.0
4 Lowest 1 -1.0
5 Lowest 1 0
6 Average of lowest 2 -1.0
7 or 8 Average of lowest 2 0
9 to 11 Average of lowest 3 0
12 to 14 Average of lowest 4 0
15 or 16 Average of lowest 5 0
17 or 18 Average of lowest 6 0
19 Average of lowest 7 0
20 Average of lowest 8 0
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
A basic - however as we had the debate on 1st tee yesterday on calculating shots given/received in 4BBB. My understanding is that we each calculate 90% of our CH and each players PH being that after then rounding up/down. Shots given/received are calculated by difference of each players PH off the lowest PH. Is that correct?
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That is correct.
 
Used the EG app to enter a score this afternoon, easy to sign in and add Hid as player 2. Easy to update scores after each hole with a running total of how many over par and stable Ford points, didn't use side match but will next time. Finished round, signed the box and submitted. Only niggle is you don't get a notification that there is a message to verify Hid score, might be in settings?. Overall for ease of use 9/10.Wouod be 10 for the notification
 
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