World Handicap System (WHS)

[Swinglowandslow]

As per ForeRight nothing changes before you go out.

His PCC equals Playing Condition Calculation. Like the old competition standard scratch it this figure which is used to check how you played on the day and sets the figure for your qualifying score for handicap purposes.

Thank you , gents. Reckon I've got it now. ( old dog, new tricks syndrome)?

 

[rulefan]

As I understand it, the length of the hole(s)/course still needs to be within the allowed variance from the rated distance.

Appendix G covers it.

 

[Ridgeman]

Just as confusing as to what you mean by someone changing you putter. (assuming it is not just a joke about your own mental state)

It was a joke. I had a 4 putt. Putting rest of round was good

 

[3offTheTee]

May not be a recognised format but we are playing the following what are the percentage of course Handicap please:

2 from 3 to Count

Thanks

 

[Swango1980]

We have our first main competition of the year, which is Better Ball Stableford. This means the Playing Handicap is 85% of Course Handicap.

What is more, the Competition Secretary has told us that we cannot sign in or enter scores via howdidido. I'm not sure if this is because he set it up wrong (he is new), or because of the team format. However, it means that Players will need to work out their 85% Playing handicap themselves if they genuinely want to know what their competition score is before the results are published.

That is going to be fun.

Many members have still not got round to the whole 95% Playing Handicap concept that applies to most competitions played (i.e. singles stroke play)
Many members who have finally got their heads around that, and maybe even aware of the 100% singles match play and 90% fourball match play (i'd imagine a few have got that far), are now going to have 85% thrown at them
Many members, assuming the sheet at club tells them about the 85% playing handicap, will have many blank expressions on the 1st tee box when they try to work this out in their heads, as the software is not going to save them this time (except for their Calculator App on their phone)
I'm predicting some confusion when the results are posted.

I can't possibly think why some people have the nerve to suggest WHS is more confusing that the old system

 

[rulefan]

May not be a recognised format but we are playing the following what are the percentage of course Handicap please:

2 from 3 to Count

Thanks

See post #2528

 

[ger147]

Just to follow up on my tri-am question, the format played was best 2 from 3 net scores counted, the handicap allowance was 100% of CH and I'm hearing the leading score is 19 under Par.

 

[Swango1980]

We have our first main competition of the year, which is Better Ball Stableford. This means the Playing Handicap is 85% of Course Handicap.

What is more, the Competition Secretary has told us that we cannot sign in or enter scores via howdidido. I'm not sure if this is because he set it up wrong (he is new), or because of the team format. However, it means that Players will need to work out their 85% Playing handicap themselves if they genuinely want to know what their competition score is before the results are published.

That is going to be fun.

Many members have still not got round to the whole 95% Playing Handicap concept that applies to most competitions played (i.e. singles stroke play)
Many members who have finally got their heads around that, and maybe even aware of the 100% singles match play and 90% fourball match play (i'd imagine a few have got that far), are now going to have 85% thrown at them
Many members, assuming the sheet at club tells them about the 85% playing handicap, will have many blank expressions on the 1st tee box when they try to work this out in their heads, as the software is not going to save them this time (except for their Calculator App on their phone)
I'm predicting some confusion when the results are posted.

I can't possibly think why some people have the nerve to suggest WHS is more confusing that the old system

Ended up a bigger mess than I thought.

The competition secretary wrote the comp rules to read before they went out, and said it was 85% of INDEX rather than Course Handicap. So, the first few groups were playing off mush less shots (especially higher handicappers) than they should have been. Given it was better ball, resulting in some picking up too early.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Ended up a bigger mess than I thought.

The competition secretary wrote the comp rules to read before they went out, and said it was 85% of INDEX rather than Course Handicap. So, the first few groups were playing off mush less shots (especially higher handicappers) than they should have been. Given it was better ball, resulting in some picking up too early.

your competition secretary needs to take a long hard look at himself then. Still, always next time, but I am sure the handicap system will get the blame

 

[Swango1980]

your competition secretary needs to take a long hard look at himself then. Still, always next time, but I am sure the handicap system will get the blame

Oh, he will. He is pretty new to the role, only started end of last year. Didn't help the software would not let people sign in to see handicaps, so he was doing it in his head. Had software worked, he would have probably at least asked why the playing handicaps looked different

 

[3offTheTee]

If a player has a Course Handicap of 11 and is playing in a singles stableford I am correct in saying he would receive 11 strokes. 95% of 11 = 10.45 Therefore 11

Is the calculation to 2 decimal points both for Course Handicap AND playing handicap?

Thanks

 

[TigerTime]

How do I go about getting a handicap these days? I don't have one yet but I'd like to start submitting cards everytime I play. Do I always need to play with someone else for them to sign it off?

I usually just play on my own, don't really know anyone at the club I'm at. Feels like it'd be a bit of a chore everytime I book a tee time to ask some random person I've never met to sign my card.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

How do I go about getting a handicap these days? I don't have one yet but I'd like to start submitting cards everytime I play. Do I always need to play with someone else for them to sign it off?

I usually just play on my own, don't really know anyone at the club I'm at. Feels like it'd be a bit of a chore everytime I book a tee time to ask some random person I've never met to sign my card.

Yup, needs to be signed/verified by a playing partner.

Speak to the club and ask if they can set something up or for their best advice as to what to do

 

[Swango1980]

If a player has a Course Handicap of 11 and is playing in a singles stableford I am correct in saying he would receive 11 strokes. 95% of 11 = 10.45 Therefore 11

Is the calculation to 2 decimal points both for Course Handicap AND playing handicap?

Thanks

10.45 rounded to a whole number is 10, not 11. 10.50 would be 11.

 

[TigerTime]

Yup, needs to be signed/verified by a playing partner.

Speak to the club and ask if they can set something up or for their best advice as to what to do

Im playing on Monday so I'll ask the pro what I need to do then. Just we also have two medals coming up in 2 weeks and I'd quite like to play them since I've never before.

Only other thing I can see is the club allows you to book onto other peoples tee times. But I'd hate to do that, then ask them to record my score for me. Maybe they are just out for a quick round or something, that would be awkward.

 

[Deleted member 15717]

Im playing on Monday so I'll ask the pro what I need to do then. Just we also have two medals coming up in 2 weeks and I'd quite like to play them since I've never before.

Only other thing I can see is the club allows you to book onto other peoples tee times. But I'd hate to do that, then ask them to record my score for me. Maybe they are just out for a quick round or something, that would be awkward.

I wouldn’t worry. Everyone who has held a handicap has been there.

 

[HampshireHog]

Im playing on Monday so I'll ask the pro what I need to do then. Just we also have two medals coming up in 2 weeks and I'd quite like to play them since I've never before.

Only other thing I can see is the club allows you to book onto other peoples tee times. But I'd hate to do that, then ask them to record my score for me. Maybe they are just out for a quick round or something, that would be awkward.

You should still be able to play in the medal, without a handicap you just won’t be eligible for a prize, but your card would count to your handicap.

I wouldn’t worry about asking a stranger to mark a card, worst they can do is say no. I’d ask the club to help introduce you to someone who would be willing to help if you are worried about it.

 

[rulefan]

Only other thing I can see is the club allows you to book onto other peoples tee times.

If they haven't blocked off the other places then, by implication they are 'inviting' others to join them.

But I'd hate to do that, then ask them to record my score for me. Maybe they are just out for a quick round or something, that would be awkward.

Players always have to have someone else to record their score.

 

[jim8flog]

If a player has a Course Handicap of 11 and is playing in a singles stableford I am correct in saying he would receive 11 strokes. 95% of 11 = 10.45 Therefore 11

Is the calculation to 2 decimal points both for Course Handicap AND playing handicap?

Thanks

Course and Playing Handicaps are the same as the old system 0.5 goes up and 0.4 goes down. However where rounding occurs depends on which part of the UK you are playing in.

 

[TigerTime]

You should still be able to play in the medal, without a handicap you just won’t be eligible for a prize, but your card would count to your handicap.

I wouldn’t worry about asking a stranger to mark a card, worst they can do is say no. I’d ask the club to help introduce you to someone who would be willing to help if you are worried about it.

Didn't know that. I'll speak to the pro on Monday. Hopefully an easy solution rather than him telling me 'you'll just need to ask someone'.