Women's World Cup

Golfmmad said:
I have to admit that I haven't watched that many Womens matches, but i will say of the ones I have watched , I haven't seen any "Mickey Mouse" goals.

But I did see a few in the recent England (mens) game!:eek:
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Watch enough women's footy and it won't be long until you see an effort that looks like a routine save (because you're conditioned to that from men's footy) but it floats over the keeper's head and they have no chance. It happens a fair amount.
 
Sorry FIFA but this is not growing the womens game in any way. You need to find a way to change international qualifying to reduce this to the best 8 teams at most. Let the Thai's and others come through their groups but then have some sort of international play off. 13-0 is rubbish as a spectacle
 
Orikoru said:
Watch enough women's footy and it won't be long until you see an effort that looks like a routine save (because you're conditioned to that from men's footy) but it floats over the keeper's head and they have no chance. It happens a fair amount.
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Do you mean like when Beckham scored from the half way line, Alonso at Liverpool, Rooney for Man united, Ronaldhino against England? Just a few off the top of my head.
It happens in the mens game too.

My 13 year old Grandaughter plays for her local team and they've won their league for the past 2 years. The team were invited to walk out with Lewes Ladies against Man united Ladies. It was the first time that I watched a professional womens game. A couple of things stood out and surprised me. Both teams were aggressive and very competetive and fought for every ball. Lewes managed to keep a clean sheet for the first half but in the end lost 2-0.If it wasn't for an outstanding game from Lewes's keeper it could easily have been 6-0. In fact she got player of the match.

So I would say, give the Womens game a chance - it's the future!
 
Golfmmad said:
Do you mean like when Beckham scored from the half way line, Alonso at Liverpool, Rooney for Man united, Ronaldhino against England? Just a few off the top of my head.
It happens in the mens game too.

My 13 year old Grandaughter plays for her local team and they've won their league for the past 2 years. The team were invited to walk out with Lewes Ladies against Man united Ladies. It was the first time that I watched a professional womens game. A couple of things stood out and surprised me. Both teams were aggressive and very competetive and fought for every ball. Lewes managed to keep a clean sheet for the first half but in the end lost 2-0.If it wasn't for an outstanding game from Lewes's keeper it could easily have been 6-0. In fact she got player of the match.

So I would say, give the Womens game a chance - it's the future!
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Unless women suddenly grow in height then some goals will simply be inevitable. Whilst all keepers male and female can make technical errors.
Shots are going in 3ft from the corners. That's not error its simply that they're two small.

As to your last line. It may grow and flourish, but I wouldnt put to much in it being the future of the game.
 
Any other thoughts on the goal keeping :unsure:

It just looks like football from primary school where the worst player has to go in goal as they are always the last to get picked.
 
HappyHacker1 said:
Any other thoughts on the goal keeping :unsure:

It just looks like football from primary school where the worst player has to go in goal as they are always the last to get picked.
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Not sure it's that bad. Technically the Thai keeper was lacking (as well as her diminutive stature) but a lot of the keepers are decent enough technically and are far from last man standing keepers
 
I personally don’t find women’s football entertaining; too slow and lacking the skill I expect at the pinnacle of a sport. Comparing it to the men’s game is almost certainly a subconscious bias holding people back and that’s an obstacle it is not going to overcome anytime soon.

The very best women’s team would be beaten by every men’s team in the football league in all likelihood due to the physicality involved and that’s something that’s difficult to ignore. It will do well to get past these conceptions and be judged in its own right. It hasn’t been helped by the fact it was banned in this country for fifty years which is just about as sexist a move as you could imagine!
 
Golfmmad said:
Do you mean like when Beckham scored from the half way line, Alonso at Liverpool, Rooney for Man united, Ronaldhino against England? Just a few off the top of my head.
It happens in the mens game too.

My 13 year old Grandaughter plays for her local team and they've won their league for the past 2 years. The team were invited to walk out with Lewes Ladies against Man united Ladies. It was the first time that I watched a professional womens game. A couple of things stood out and surprised me. Both teams were aggressive and very competetive and fought for every ball. Lewes managed to keep a clean sheet for the first half but in the end lost 2-0.If it wasn't for an outstanding game from Lewes's keeper it could easily have been 6-0. In fact she got player of the match.

So I would say, give the Womens game a chance - it's the future!
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Yes, those four examples over the last 20 years, all of which where the goalkeepers were poorly positioned or slipped. My point was that in women's football the keeper could be correctly positioned, not make an error, but still have no chance with a high effort simply because they are 5'9 and the goal is full sized.

I said I enjoy watching women's football, nothing against it, I'm actually defending it here to be honest rather than attacking it. People always criticise it by saying the keepers are all awful, but I'm saying in their defence that the goals should be smaller since the keepers are always going to be shorter.
 
HappyHacker1 said:
Any other thoughts on the goal keeping :unsure:

It just looks like football from primary school where the worst player has to go in goal as they are always the last to get picked.
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Almost every game, even at a higher level seems to contain any number of howlers. (No stats, just my eye test). I realise the goals are too big, but most are just shocking technical or decision based errors.
I wonder if they should think a little bit outside the box and train up a decent small forward basketball player. At least you'd be starting with someone who knows how to handle a ball...
 
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pendodave said:
Almost every game, even at a higher level seems to contain any number of howlers. (No stats, just my eye test). I realise the goals are too big, but most are just shocking technical or decision based errors.
I wonder if they should think a little bit outside the box and train up a decent small forward basketball player. At least you'd be starting with someone who knows how to handle a ball...
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Interesting thought. What about a rugby player - use to catching a funny shaped ball and a bigger physical presence. I think the womens goalkeeping position will develop and change hugely in the next 5-10 years and you'll see a lot bigger, more mobile, more tactically aware keepers coming along. I don't have the stats but what about the keepers from the top nations like the US and England and the top European sides? How big are they and are they perhaps already bigger physically than say an Asian, African, South American counterpart
 
pendodave said:
Almost every game, even at a higher level seems to contain any number of howlers. (No stats, just my eye test). I realise the goals are too big, but most are just shocking technical or decision based errors.
I wonder if they should think a little bit outside the box and train up a decent small forward basketball player. At least you'd be starting with someone who knows how to handle a ball...
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They just don't seem to have a clue, like they don't seem to even know where to stand, it is literally like a primary school kid going in goal cause no one would pick him/her for outside.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Best looking player at the World Cup?
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Alex Morgan is quite tidy. Danielle van de Donk is alright. Leah Williamson seems to scrub up ok. Some of the Swedes are decent. It is hard to tell when they're not exactly going to look their best when running around with no make-up on. :p
 
Orikoru said:
Yes, those four examples over the last 20 years, all of which where the goalkeepers were poorly positioned or slipped. My point was that in women's football the keeper could be correctly positioned, not make an error, but still have no chance with a high effort simply because they are 5'9 and the goal is full sized.

I said I enjoy watching women's football, nothing against it, I'm actually defending it here to be honest rather than attacking it. People always criticise it by saying the keepers are all awful, but I'm saying in their defence that the goals should be smaller since the keepers are always going to be shorter.
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Orikoru said:
Yes, those four examples over the last 20 years, all of which where the goalkeepers were poorly positioned or slipped. My point was that in women's football the keeper could be correctly positioned, not make an error, but still have no chance with a high effort simply because they are 5'9 and the goal is full sized.

I said I enjoy watching women's football, nothing against it, I'm actually defending it here to be honest rather than attacking it. People always criticise it by saying the keepers are all awful, but I'm saying in their defence that the goals should be smaller since the keepers are always going to be shorter.
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Although I pressed the like button, I still don't agree with reducing the size of goals. As Homer has said, the women over time will get bigger and physically more able.
Who can remember about 30 years ago when England beat San Moreno 6-1, when there were "Easy" games. How often do we hear "There are no easy games at International level anymore". And so it will evolve, over time with the Womens game, and yes it is the future, in Womens sport.

When I watch my 13 year old Grandaughter at training at the Brighton Academy, I'm amazed at how good the standard is,and I mean really good!

I think the future is bright for the Womens game and anyone that says otherwise should go and watch a professional game live. (y)
 
Golfmmad said:
Although I pressed the like button, I still don't agree with reducing the size of goals. As Homer has said, the women over time will get bigger and physically more able.
Who can remember about 30 years ago when England beat San Moreno 6-1, when there were "Easy" games. How often do we hear "There are no easy games at International level anymore". And so it will evolve, over time with the Womens game, and yes it is the future, in Womens sport.

When I watch my 13 year old Grandaughter at training at the Brighton Academy, I'm amazed at how good the standard is,and I mean really good!

I think the future is bright for the Womens game and anyone that says otherwise should go and watch a professional game live. (y)
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I think the standard will improve or at least become more competitive over time. The goalkeepers for some nations are decent shot stoppers, but I’m not sure they’ll become much better than that. Standard height for keepers (male) now must be what 6”2 minimum? I’d imagine the pool of women at that height must be very small and if they were selected, would likely be based on their height as much as their talent.
 
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