Women's World Cup

[Doon frae Troon]

Decent game for Scotland against the World No 3 team.
Just a dodgy penalty between them.

My non sporty wife watched a bit and come to this judgement...….. 'It's much better to watch, they don't fanny about like the men'

 

[HomerJSimpson]

Thought Scotland played well. Plenty of potential going into the other group games and would be good to see them progress in their first WC

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Why do the BBC headline their results with Women's World Cup then put women after all the team names.
I look forward to them doing the same for the Men's World Cup when England Men play Brazil Men.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Why do the BBC headline their results with Women's World Cup then put women after all the team names.
I look forward to them doing the same for the Men's World Cup when England Men play Brazil Men.

I agree. I hate the way the England team are constantly referred to as the Lionesses as well. Slightly irrational of me but the mens team are never referred to as the Lions in a report so why do it with the women? I should add, it is women reporting on the womens team who are doing this, it is not men to blame.

 

[Kellfire]

I agree. I hate the way the England team are constantly referred to as the Lionesses as well. Slightly irrational of me but the mens team are never referred to as the Lions in a report so why do it with the women? I should add, it is women reporting on the womens team who are doing this, it is not men to blame.

The Lionesses rolls off the tongue much better than the Three Lionesses (which is actually a nickname of the women's team as well) which is why they use it.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I don't think it rolls off the tongue at all, which is part of the problem. I make it 4 syllables and that is too clumsy. Why use it at all, why not just call them the England team, English etc? Do the Scots at this World Cup have a nickname or are they just the Scots, Scotland etc?

I could have put this in random irritations as that is all it is.

 

[Kellfire]

I don't think it rolls off the tongue at all, which is part of the problem. I make it 4 syllables and that is too clumsy. Why use it at all, why not just call them the England team, English etc? Do the Scots at this World Cup have a nickname or are they just the Scots, Scotland etc?

I could have put this in random irritations as that is all it is.

I think it’s all about crafting a brand, especially towards the younger viewer.

 

[Orikoru]

I wanted to watch this but I was knackered and had a nap instead. I think I'm going to miss the next two games as well actually. That's a shame.

I always wonder why they don't use smaller goals for women's football. I mean, it's probably just because it's hassle to change the goals that are already there. But when people on social media take the mick out of the rubbish keepers, about 20% of the time they're correct, but the other 80% of the time it's simply because the keeper is 5'8 and trying to keep it out of a full size net. Bit harsh. I enjoy women's football as it's not all about pace and physicality as men's football can be sometimes.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I wanted to watch this but I was knackered and had a nap instead. I think I'm going to miss the next two games as well actually. That's a shame.

I always wonder why they don't use smaller goals for women's football. I mean, it's probably just because it's hassle to change the goals that are already there. But when people on social media take the mick out of the rubbish keepers, about 20% of the time they're correct, but the other 80% of the time it's simply because the keeper is 5'8 and trying to keep it out of a full size net. Bit harsh. I enjoy women's football as it's not all about pace and physicality as men's football can be sometimes.

This was actually raised a couple of weeks ago as a genuine issue. The problem is apart from elite level it is not practical to have two sets of goals, extra costs, where to store, who changes them etc. I think it would be better for the game but impractical.

 

[AmandaJR]

I'd never thought about the smaller goals but it does make sense as I imagine the average keeper is perhaps 4-5" shorter then their male equivalent?

I enjoyed the game and there are areas where it has improved immensely. It's just that final bit of quality and weirdly I noticed how many players tried to sort of off-load with the outside of the wrong foot and never got enough pace on the "pass". Perhaps very one-footed? Not sure...

On weight of pass - do they play with the same ball as the men? Just googled and it seems they do - perhaps a lighter weight would be beneficial...

 

[Orikoru]

I'd never thought about the smaller goals but it does make sense as I imagine the average keeper is perhaps 4-5" shorter then their male equivalent?

I enjoyed the game and there are areas where it has improved immensely. It's just that final bit of quality and weirdly I noticed how many players tried to sort of off-load with the outside of the wrong foot and never got enough pace on the "pass". Perhaps very one-footed? Not sure...

On weight of pass - do they play with the same ball as the men? Just googled and it seems they do - perhaps a lighter weight would be beneficial...

England's number 1 is actually 6'0 but I think she's the exception. Our other two keepers are 5'9 and 5'7. The French keeper with 140 caps is 5'9. In the men's game even 6'0 is considered on the short side, most top level keepers will be at least 6'2. A lot of the long distance goals you see in the women's game will be ones that dip and go in the top half of the net, giving the goalkeeper very little chance, whereas a male keeper who's not too far off his line would always have a chance of stopping it unless it's inch perfect.

Footballs used in the pro game are about as light as they can be anyway I think.

 

[Papas1982]

I wanted to watch this but I was knackered and had a nap instead. I think I'm going to miss the next two games as well actually. That's a shame.

I always wonder why they don't use smaller goals for women's football. I mean, it's probably just because it's hassle to change the goals that are already there. But when people on social media take the mick out of the rubbish keepers, about 20% of the time they're correct, but the other 80% of the time it's simply because the keeper is 5'8 and trying to keep it out of a full size net. Bit harsh. I enjoy women's football as it's not all about pace and physicality as men's football can be sometimes.

I saw Hope Solo asked about the goals and she went off on one. Saying they don't play on smaller pitches etc.

I think she misses the point completely, if two women are chasing a ball donw the wing, they are competing the same as two men covering the ground, where as the goals leave them at a massive disadvantage. I'd just teach my midfield to do a Lampard. anything remotely near the corners has the keepers scrambling.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Amanda, Perhaps as the womens game grows this type of thing will be looked at. In the same way women use different clubs, play off different tees in golf the game can be adapted slightly to suit them better. It makes sense. I heard an interview with one player saying that at the last tournament the kit they wore was actually mens kit with the womens emblems and name on them. This time the kit is designed for womens body shapes. Little things but it helps.

 

[Orikoru]

I saw Hope Solo asked about the goals and she went off on one. Saying they don't play on smaller pitches etc.

I think she misses the point completely, if two women are chasing a ball donw the wing, they are competing the same as two men covering the ground, where as the goals leave them at a massive disadvantage. I'd just teach my midfield to do a Lampard. anything remotely near the corners has the keepers scrambling.

Definitely. Any player who can hit a dipping ball from 20-30 yards in women's football has a good chance of scoring a huge amount of goals.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

I saw Hope Solo asked about the goals and she went off on one. Saying they don't play on smaller pitches etc.

I think she misses the point completely, if two women are chasing a ball donw the wing, they are competing the same as two men covering the ground, where as the goals leave them at a massive disadvantage. I'd just teach my midfield to do a Lampard. anything remotely near the corners has the keepers scrambling.

Surely to play on anything other than a normal pitch would be making the ladies game unequal, and surely the whole point of womens footy is to show equality....as much as possible.

 

[Papas1982]

Surely to play on anything other than a normal pitch would be making the ladies game unequal, and surely the whole point of womens footy is to show equality....as much as possible.

I agree they should play on a full pitch and with full goals tbh, it just means that we have to accept that anything in the top corner is likely to be a goal.

I was more just questioning Solo tbh, pitch size and goal size being the same isn't comparable imo. As short men and tall men all still cover a whole itch, so women being shorter shouldn't matter. Where as player size is obviously a massive difference when in goal.

 

[Rooter]

I worry about the husbands and partners. Who is cooking their tea?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Surely to play on anything other than a normal pitch would be making the ladies game unequal, and surely the whole point of womens footy is to show equality....as much as possible.

In cricket the boundary rope is brought in for the womens game, in golf the ladies play from tees much closer to the hole. It makes both games a better spectacle allowing for the physical differences between men and women.

Equality is playing the sport but they don't have to copy every aspect, they can tweak a game to make it suit better. After all, the womens team are not playing a mens team it is women v women in their respective sports. They are equal against each other and that is what matters.

 

[hovis]

Why do the BBC headline their results with Women's World Cup then put women after all the team names.
I look forward to them doing the same for the Men's World Cup when England Men play Brazil Men.

So I know not to waste my time and read stories or scores I don't care about 😏

 

[Papas1982]

Why do the BBC headline their results with Women's World Cup then put women after all the team names.
I look forward to them doing the same for the Men's World Cup when England Men play Brazil Men.

Maybe because Fifa actually call it the womens world cup........