AmandaJR
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Bottled it again - how is that not a red?!
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anotherdouble
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Totally agree with all above posts about today’s game. The elbow was shocking. The tackle at the end was shocking. The commentator Mr Pearce said when the board went up showing 7 added on minutes at the end made a comment that most of this was for VAR and then said there was a total of 15 min of stoppages. I couldn’t make out is this was solely for VAR
chrisd
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Cameroon were an absolute disgrace, there needs to be proper referees at this level
Old Skier
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Phil's post match interview was spot on.
ColchesterFC
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I haven't watched the match but surely the problem isn't with VAR, it's with the referee using it. I can understand that there are certain decisions that are a matter of opinion or aren't clear cut but from comments on here and the BBC text commentary it seems as though the blame lies with the ref rather than the technology.
Old Skier
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VAR in football has followed on from Rugby with referees failing to give the most basic of decisions.
pokerjoke
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The refs are up against it imo.
There are 5 or 6 people in a room with multiple screens,they can’t make a decision so they throw it down to the red to make a final decision,this imo needs to change,give them the power to make the decision based on all the angles they see.
I actually thought the ref did fairly well against a horrible Cameroon team and coach.
IMHO I think it could have been a red at the end,if given it could have all kicked off.
Credit to Phil Neville at the end as it looked initially the Cameroon coach wasn’t shaking hands
There are 5 or 6 people in a room with multiple screens,they can’t make a decision so they throw it down to the red to make a final decision,this imo needs to change,give them the power to make the decision based on all the angles they see.
I actually thought the ref did fairly well against a horrible Cameroon team and coach.
IMHO I think it could have been a red at the end,if given it could have all kicked off.
Credit to Phil Neville at the end as it looked initially the Cameroon coach wasn’t shaking hands
FIFA have to do something immediately to improve the standard of the referees in the womens game (arguably in the mens too) and make sure these referees from Africa and Asia in particular are up to the task. On current showing they are out of their depth at this level. VAR is a mess in this competition and again needs a dramatic review. I hope FIFA take action against Cameroon but doubt it. Thought Phil Neville got it spot on with his comments and could probably have gone further had he known he'd get into trouble for doing so
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What did Neville say, in a nutshell?
Bunkermagnet
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Footy World Cups always use refs from lesser associations, and you normally get poor games from them.
Cameroon were disgusting, and should have been ordered to play or be red carded.
Cameroon were disgusting, and should have been ordered to play or be red carded.
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Well done to England for maintaining their composure.
We were hoping to keep this game free of the nonsense plaguing the mens’ game....
We were hoping to keep this game free of the nonsense plaguing the mens’ game....
Sadly, the WC has only given us a taste of the VAR fiasco we have to come in the PL and the mens international game going forward. I hope the PL find a way to water down the usage or I can see some of the real primadonnas wanting this used every two minutes. We are heading for a game that resembles NFL and stops and starts. Unless the powers can find a way to utilise the system in a way like rugby union where its possible to hear and see what is going on and what is being checked then there will be these tumbleweed moments of confusion
Crazyface
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Well that's football all over. Run by stuck up morons with their heads firmly rammed into very deep sand. Unwilling to embrace any real change until it becomes inevitable then they muck about making stupid rule changes that now makes the game impossible to understand. And don't pop at me for this. I lost 20 euros on holiday two years ago (yes it still hurts) betting with my 15 YO grandson over the offside law. OMG I was way off! Utterly useless the lot of them. Qatar for the World Cup says everything!!!!
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For me the contentious issue with VAR lies primarily with offside and the 'not interfering with play' nonsense. If you are an assistant/linesman/woman you have one pair of eyes watching a moving ball and moving players - defenders coming out and attackers moving in. That is hard enough so if say a blue shirt is ahead of all the red shirts when the ball's kicked that's what you're going to see first, you can't be looking at all places in a fraction of a second. In my view if any of the attacking team is in an offside position when the ball is kicked forward then that should be offside. Like it used to be.
Appreciate that doesn't affect yesterday's calls and I'm not condoning Cameroon's shocking attitude as those are the current rules but one for FIFA to look at.
Appreciate that doesn't affect yesterday's calls and I'm not condoning Cameroon's shocking attitude as those are the current rules but one for FIFA to look at.
Kellfire
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So many changes seem to be to promote goals and attacking football so I can see them going that way - even though it would make it so much easier to officiate.
They did a thing on Soccer Saturday a couple of seasons back with Neville and Carragher I think at St Georges with the PL linesmen and the chief trainer and tested both in real time situations. Both found it so hard especially as described players are moving both ways to make the correct calls and I think (although Neville was loathe to admit it too much) it opened their eyes to how hard the job is. I can see VAR being good and surely given the time players celebrating these days a quick VAR will confirm there was no offside and a message relayed to the referee. I am sure that was how it was suppose to be used. We know the laws say any part of a player that can play the ball in front of the last defender is deemed offside so it's a simple yes/no.
The issue for me is a lot of these referees are bottling making decisions and using VAR as a crutch to decide what to do. Why not make it like the NFL (and cricket or tennis) and a team gets a set number of appeals per game. Make it and it's incorrect (so appeal for offside on a goal conceded and VAR proves it was onside) and lose the appeal.
Orikoru
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Those Cameroon players are idiots. I know it feels harsh to lose on marginal decisions, but those decisions were clearly correct. You can have a strop and a tantrum on the pitch until you get your own way. They are an embarrassment to women's football - just when this World Cup was furthering it's profile nicely.
clubchamp98
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There should be a addition that if any attacking player encroaches into the penalty area the keepers save stands under VAR.
How can you punish a keeper for being 1†off the line when there’s 6 attackers inside the box.
Will VAR disallow a player scoring from a rebound if they are in the box when the ball is kicked?
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They need to get Nigel Owens in to show them how to use VAR. It is simple enough. No need to run over to the screen. One official in the booth... Ref asks for confirmation or is told if they missed something. The spitting and elbow were straight reds. Simple, just not applied.
Other than that, for offside and handball.... everyone knowing the rules is never a bad thing!
Other than that, for offside and handball.... everyone knowing the rules is never a bad thing!
