Winter tyres...should they be a requirement?

[Imurg]

Need to work on your clutch control mate never stalled mine pulling away in 2nd.

Mine pulls away in 3rd....Not very fast mind and it doesn't do the clutch any good but...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Just like an old record, as I keep saying it's not just about getting going, it's the stopping that you really do notice the difference. Your stopping distance is reduced by quite a bit, and it does matter when you have someone run out in front of you or a car fail to see you.

 

[Rooter]

Just like an old record, as I keep saying it's not just about getting going, it's the stopping that you really do notice the difference. Your stopping distance is reduced by quite a bit, and it does matter when you have someone run out in front of you or a car fail to see you.

wasting your breath dude, most of the comments here have come from Ari Vartanen, Stig and seb loeb...

 

[Bunkermagnet]

wasting your breath dude, most of the comments here have come from Ari Vartanen, Stig and seb loeb...

Coming to that conclusion

 

[drdel]

This debate crops up ever year. Undoubtedly the softer compounds of the 'winter' tyres give much better performance when the weather gets below 7C but whether its cost effective or a real safety advantage in a mixed tyre vehicle population is debteable.

The interesting bit is 'IF' it became a legal requirement would it mean that any car sold during the cold season would have to be fitted with either 'All weather' or 'winter' tyres as without them the vehicle would not be 'fit-for-purpose'. Indeed if it was fitted with either 'winter' or 'summer' tyres is could fall foul of the new Consumer Act because without modification it would be unsuitable for about 40% or 60%, (respectively) of the year!

At the present time I believe insurers have voluntarily agreed not to increase the premiums of drivers who 'modify' their cars by fitting winter rubber. Since many car makers now recommend fitting winter tyres does that mean an insurer has wriggle room since in their Ts&Cs they require drivers keep their car roadworthy and as the maker recommends.

 

[Leftie]

Montreal Curling

Love the guy waving at 1:27.

As far as I could tell, apart from the green top cab, they all had locked their brakes and lost all steering.

http://newsandbusiness.rogersdigita...0/13639244001_5238239279001_5238231028001.mp4

 

[Alex1975]

Not sure why a post on tyres has become a North/South thing?!

No need to change rubber, just be a better driver! Scared drivers are the most dangerous in my opinion.

 

[dewsweeper]

Montreal Curling

Love the guy waving at 1:27.

As far as I could tell, apart from the green top cab, they all had locked their brakes and lost all steering.

http://newsandbusiness.rogersdigita...0/13639244001_5238239279001_5238231028001.mp4

Serious sitution I know but very funny, as it looks as if no serious injuries were sustained.
Even snow tyres would have not saved this I suggest.

 

[Golfmmad]

Need to work on your clutch control mate never stalled mine pulling away in 2nd.

Yep, you're quite right, my bad. I actually tried it in a Vauxhall Vivaro van - in 3rd gear and pulled away easily.

The reason I stated that it would stall is because the number of times I've forgotten that I was in 3rd gear and tried to pull away in a Vauxhall Insignia, the engine would just stall everytime.

I am a decent driver really, I do it for a living! oo:

 

[Blue in Munich]

This debate crops up ever year. Undoubtedly the softer compounds of the 'winter' tyres give much better performance when the weather gets below 7C but whether its cost effective or a real safety advantage in a mixed tyre vehicle population is debteable.

Yes it is in my opinion, having used them. I wonder from some of the comments on here how many of those dismissing them have done.

The interesting bit is 'IF' it became a legal requirement would it mean that any car sold during the cold season would have to be fitted with either 'All weather' or 'winter' tyres as without them the vehicle would not be 'fit-for-purpose'. Indeed if it was fitted with either 'winter' or 'summer' tyres is could fall foul of the new Consumer Act because without modification it would be unsuitable for about 40% or 60%, (respectively) of the year!

At the present time I believe insurers have voluntarily agreed not to increase the premiums of drivers who 'modify' their cars by fitting winter rubber. Since many car makers now recommend fitting winter tyres does that mean an insurer has wriggle room since in their Ts&Cs they require drivers keep their car roadworthy and as the maker recommends.

I believe they were leant on a little by the Government and rightly so. How you can penalise someone for putting more suitable tyres on a vehicle in adverse conditions beggars belief; nothing short of theft in my opinion.