Why is it ok for women to do this.

[stevie_r]

Anyone who is upset by the ladies dress code as discussed on this thread really does need to go outside and head butt a wall for a couple of minutes; at the end of this time you might just have battered into your head the notion that women, in life generally as well as golf, wear different clothes.

 

[FairwayDodger]

think you are missing the point slightly Karen , as i said in my first reply it doesnt overly bother me what ye wear & i wont be out at the gate with a banner objecting , boo down with this sort of stuff (Fr Ted for those that havent seen it ).

Can you honestly tell me tho , that for the ladies section of the game who correctly & rightly were/have been looking for equality with the mens section are then allowed different dress codes etc ?

or maybe i should word it differently , i dont want to wear sleeveless shirts on the course or see the pro men in shorts , but surely it shouldnt be against the rules for me or them to do so if they wish to ..

Ok, trying to take this seriously. In a society where men and women wear very different types of clothes are you seriously suggesting there is anything wrong with there being different dress codes at a golf club? Sorry but it's just too trivial; it's not even a matter of principle, it's a complete irrelevance.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Hilarious thread. Boys upset at discrimination because they can't wear sleeveless tops and skorts. Go for it guys!

If some men want that kind of equality then perhaps our male athletes should be wearing sports bras and knickers.

Trouble is Dodger the guys who want the sleeveless tops and shorts generally have arms and legs covered in tattoos. Never a nice sight on a golf course.

 

[bozza]

If some men want that kind of equality then perhaps our male athletes should be wearing sports bras and knickers.

Trouble is Dodger the guys who want the sleeveless tops and shorts generally have arms and legs covered in tattoos. Never a nice sight on a golf course.

Why is the sight of a man or a woman with visible tattoos on a golf course a bad thing?

 

[bladeplayer]

Anyone who is upset by the ladies dress code as discussed on this thread really does need to go outside and head butt a wall for a couple of minutes; at the end of this time you might just have battered into your head the notion that women, in life generally as well as golf, wear different clothes.

totaly missed the point of the thread i think stevie it was not about clothes .. clothes was used as an example

If some men want that kind of equality then perhaps our male athletes should be wearing sports bras and knickers.

Trouble is Dodger the guys who want the sleeveless tops and shorts generally have arms and legs covered in tattoos. Never a nice sight on a golf course.

Doon the thread wasnt about men striving for eqaulity.. just as an example say , women can no longer use full greens or tee boxes at the club because theres not enough women members of the club , is that fair ?

staying on the clothes piece that it seems to have focused on , say for instance women are told they cant wear collars (whether they want to or not )
or branded gear , is that fair & out of curiosity if a male athlete for some crazy reason wanted to wear a sports bra is it against he rules in athletics clubs to do so ?

Ok, trying to take this seriously. In a society where men and women wear very different types of clothes are you seriously suggesting there is anything wrong with there being different dress codes at a golf club? Sorry but it's just too trivial; it's not even a matter of principle, it's a complete irrelevance.

sorry its an irrelevence but if by your own words we live in a society where men and women (correctly & thankfuly) are different is there realy a place for equality ??


the thread isnt about clothes guys & gals its about real equality (what ever that is)
Ive said more than once in this thread i dont care what ye wear , good luck to ye all , i dont want to wear a sleeveless shirt , i defo shouldnt be allowed shorts ,

but say for this threads discussion sake only ok,

your club did have 1 guy (tattoos or not) wanted to wear a sleeveless shirt would he be let ?

 

[drs1878]

Mine has

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

[Pin-seeker]

If some men want that kind of equality then perhaps our male athletes should be wearing sports bras and knickers.

Trouble is Dodger the guys who want the sleeveless tops and shorts generally have arms and legs covered in tattoos. Never a nice sight on a golf course.

& the problem with tattoos is????

 

[happyhacker]

It is an amusing example of equality when it suits. I had a chuckle when they raised a woman's retirement age to that of men's and some had the audacity to object.

It's either equality across the board or not at all. Can't pick and choose to suit either side.

 

[FairwayDodger]

sorry its an irrelevence but if by your own words we live in a society where men and women (correctly & thankfuly) are different is there realy a place for equality

I'm a pretty strong believer in equality in all walks of life. As a gay lady I have plenty of experience of discrimination. So if the thread is asking "should men and women be treated entirely equally at golf clubs?" I'm obviously going to say yes. The reason I struggle to take it seriously is that, with all the discrimination against women at golf clubs, the best example of anti-male "discrimination" you can come up with is that men can't wear sleeveless shirts.

I can honestly say that if any man at my club turned up in a sleeveless shirt, skirt, make up or whatever I wouldn't care. It's just a non-issue.

If you genuinely think men are hard done by in comparison to women at golf clubs, in any way, then by all means lets debate it. But dress codes? Come on!

 

[stevie_r]

totaly missed the point of the thread i think stevie it was not about clothes .. clothes was used as an example

Nope, you're wrong. If you re-read the OP it was solely about dress - it made no mention of equality. You and a number of others have seen fit to turn it into a ridiculous debate on equality.

The level of mysogyny on this forum at times makes me wonder how many forum members are middle aged men who are still living with their mothers.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It is an amusing example of equality when it suits.

No, it's a totally spurious example.

It's either equality across the board or not at all. Can't pick and choose to suit either side.

I completely agree. Where do you think the balance is currently?

 

[happyhacker]

I completely agree. Where do you think the balance is currently?

I don't think there is equality in anything in life. We as a race discriminate against anything different from our current 'norm'. But that's been going on since the dawn of time and an entirely different debate which I don't have time for

As far as golf clubs go, I agree with you. Woman are still on the wrong side of equality. But that doesn't change the amusing 'differences' in the application of a dress code in what is acceptable on the course between genders which is what this thread was about (I think).

 

[sydney greenstreet]

So how many on here want to wear womens golf clothes ?

 

[bladeplayer]

I'm a pretty strong believer in equality in all walks of life. As a gay lady I have plenty of experience of discrimination. So if the thread is asking "should men and women be treated entirely equally at golf clubs?" I'm obviously going to say yes. !

Yes thats what the thread was asking, clothes was an example

i was just commenting on the OP regarding clothes, i dont think men are hard done by at all , definatly not , men if anything have had too much say , im just saying if a rule (any rule) is there for one member male or female its there for all..

the women members in our club are in the minority numbers wise , but do far more for the club than men do..

i agree with you totaly men and women should be treated totaly equaly, regarding the man turning up in sleeveless shirt & skirt

out of curiosity can i ask people here tho if a guy did do this, would he be let play ? if not then why not ?

For the record , to me we are all just members, equal members and every member male or female should have the same rights as me , i apreciate its not always the case & that has to change ,

 

[FairwayDodger]

For the record , to me we are all just members, equal members and every member male or female should have the same rights as me , i apreciate its not always the case & that has to change ,

We can agree on that!

Skorts for all, lol! :lol:

 

[sydney greenstreet]

clothes was an example

Womens clothing was the Topic

 

[sydney greenstreet]

I dont see the point with the OP women ARE different from men hence why clothing shape is different ie a guys polo shirt is a different shape from a ladie's and same with trousers I dont want to see unisex clothing as in general body shape is different.

 

[Mary]

I think you will find that the dress code for ladies is more strictly imosed at golf clubs. The tour are happy for the pro ladies to wear hot pants etc, as, at the end of the day - sex sells, and they are looking to attract both sponsorship and spectators to the women's game.

 

[FairwayDodger]

I think you will find that the dress code for ladies is more strictly imosed at golf clubs. The tour are happy for the pro ladies to wear hot pants etc, as, at the end of the day - sex sells, and they are looking to attract both sponsorship and spectators to the women's game.

Very good point.

Earlier in the year I played a competition at a local club. On the evening after the first day all competitors were emailed that there had been complaints by some members about some of the clothes we were wearing. Frankly, nobody on the first day was wearing anything that made me look twice so I was very surprised. Some shorts were "too short" apparently but nobody was exactly wearing hot pants.

 

[bladeplayer]

It's either equality across the board or not at all. Can't pick and choose to suit either side.

yep thats it nailed on the head

Nope, you're wrong. If you re-read the OP it was solely about dress - it made no mention of equality. You and a number of others have seen fit to turn it into a ridiculous debate on equality.

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i thought it asked why can the lpga have different rules to the mens section regarding dress codes , ie equality ?? tiger would get slated, a woman wouldnt .. you could be right maybe ive missed the point , wouldnt be first or last time

how is any debate where others opinions are respected even in disagreement classed as ridiculous?

Bozza my apologies if im wrong & ive taken the thread away from the clothes thread you wanted discussed
so il opt out of the convo

Karen i enjoyed our discussion