Foxholer
Blackballed
My view too. Plenty of other situations where it's disrespectful/discourteous to talk because folk are trying to concentrate (even if on 'not concentrating'!).
Even in basketball, players are respectful for Free Throws.
Why does talking bother people?
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Even in basketball, players are respectful for Free Throws.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yea definitely, I wouldn't talk while someone I'm playing with is hitting the ball.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
It is (or should be) a basic tenant of the etiquette of the game. We have a couple of holes with tee boxes adjacent to each other and if there are people teeing off on the other hole we'll hold our conversation while they hit even though its a good 20 yards or so away. It is a simple respect thing and the type of courteous behaviour you want reciprocated when its your turn.
GB72
Money List Winner
Taking the element of courtesy and respect out of the equation as I do think it is rude to talk during someone's shot, the question of how distracting it is has some interest. From my point of view, it does not worry me at all. Maybe I am just not that focused on my game.
What I have seen is a number of playing partners whose hearing changes dependent on how their round is going. If they are playing well then you could fire a starting pistol in their backswing and it would make no difference whereas if they are playing badly then the slightest whisper (real or imaginary) is clearly to blame for every bad shot.
From my reading of it, the original question was not one of the etiquette of the situation, we all appreciate that dictates silence on the tee, but one of why small amounts of noise are, apparently, enough to ruin someone's ability to swing a golf club.
What I have seen is a number of playing partners whose hearing changes dependent on how their round is going. If they are playing well then you could fire a starting pistol in their backswing and it would make no difference whereas if they are playing badly then the slightest whisper (real or imaginary) is clearly to blame for every bad shot.
From my reading of it, the original question was not one of the etiquette of the situation, we all appreciate that dictates silence on the tee, but one of why small amounts of noise are, apparently, enough to ruin someone's ability to swing a golf club.
hovis
Tour Winner
I think alot of this boils down to what you've been "normalised" to on the golf course. If from the first day of stepping on a golf course you where thought that a golf course is a loud environment where people talk, laugh, use phones and is basically a free for all most people wouldn't be putt off by noise. Like someone mentioned earlier, it's the fact that someone is being disrespectful that is the off putting factor not the noise it self.
Pathetic Shark
Tour Rookie
I had a guy a couple of weeks ago where on four consecutive holes, he was making noise at the top of someone's swing. Putting a club back in his bag, doing a zip up, taking his glove off. A one-off you could understand but this went past it. On behalf of the group I quietly spoke to him after the round and he lost it saying he had never had anyone complain in 15+ years of golf. There was no dealing with him that day but if another complaint comes in against him in the same vein, then I will have to take action. 18 holes with Fragger will probably do it 
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
As other have said - the main reason I find folks chatting whilst I am addressing the ball distracting - is not so much the noise or chatter - but the discourtesy. We all know that we should remain quiet - so why don't we. It's not difficult.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
At a previous club one member had a reputation for unacceptable game-playing as in a match he might suddenly jingle keys and/or change in his pocket at the the most unhelpful timing for his opponent. Do that sort of stuff at your own peril and risk developing such a reputation. Or just keep quiet.I had a guy a couple of weeks ago where on four consecutive holes, he was making noise at the top of someone's swing. Putting a club back in his bag, doing a zip up, taking his glove off. A one-off you could understand but this went past it. On behalf of the group I quietly spoke to him after the round and he lost it saying he had never had anyone complain in 15+ years of golf. There was no dealing with him that day but if another complaint comes in against him in the same vein, then I will have to take action. 18 holes with Fragger will probably do it
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I don't mind people talking, if they are already doing it. It when someone starts or moves as I am just about to swing or putt, that puts me off.
From what my wife says, she plays with one lady that carries on talking whilst swinging the club, don't think she has a problem
From what my wife says, she plays with one lady that carries on talking whilst swinging the club, don't think she has a problem
drdel
Tour Rookie
We anyone is taking 'aim' it simply good manners to give them respect znd the chance to do their best.
E.g..
Archery,
Shooting
Basketball
Rugby try, football penalty
Tennis or tabletennis serve
Bowls, bowling
Etc.
Let's be honest most of the talk or chatting is a load of banter and rubbish and can easily be delayed by a few seconds
E.g..
Archery,
Shooting
Basketball
Rugby try, football penalty
Tennis or tabletennis serve
Bowls, bowling
Etc.
Let's be honest most of the talk or chatting is a load of banter and rubbish and can easily be delayed by a few seconds
Pathetic Shark
Tour Rookie
I had someone do that a few years ago. I gave him the benefit of the doubt the first two times but lost it on the third. Conceeded the match and walked off the course. And then made damn sure I let everyone know exactly what had happened. He lasted less than another six months at the club.
Mandofred
Well-known member
You....do not understand basketball.
Foxholer
Blackballed
If you've got to go all the way back to Larry Bird days....
Oh. And I'd suggest you don't understand Golf!
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Mandofred
Well-known member
People keep making up things that people say (Trump-like). I've never said I don't think you should be quiet while your PP are hitting(and nobody else has either). I don't remember anybody here saying to go ahead and talk all you want while your PP is hitting. I realise that people DO get upset about it though....no problem. Don't invent something that hasn't been said.If you've got to go all the way back to Larry Bird days....
Oh. And I'd suggest you don't understand Golf!
There are sports (like golf) where the accepted etiquette is to be quiet while your PP are hitting. Fair enough. Basketball is NOT one of them. There is no time during basketball where the players have to be silent. You better not talk to someone who is shooting free-throws or the ref my come after you.....but you can talk to other players etc without a problem. If just taking a regular shot....deal with it, just part of the sport. While coaching basketball and volleyball I would regularly talk to my players in practice (and invite the other players to say things to them) while they were shooting free-throws and serving in volleyball. It's noisy during games and they need to get used to it and block out things/noise that might bother them.
Pathetic Shark
Tour Rookie
I had a guy in British baseball years ago who thought it would be funny to keep yelling out at me whilst I was in the middle of pitching. It didn't bother me much but a few other players had a go at him. He just replied it was part of the game. So was the 80 mph fastball I put in his ribs when he came up to bat. He didn't do it again. Not sure how that would translate to golf though......
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
One of my PP is a pain in the bottom for movement.
Yesterday he duffed his approach because (completely my fault I will admit) it was so hot I had taken a bit of drink but the bottle had made that noise plastic bottles do when u drink too much .. so the tiny little crinkle .. my bad should have waited ..
On the green if he sees any movement in his eye line that's it .. I mean even if ur waiting with putter in hand and a bit of light reflects
Statue still got to stand
Yesterday he duffed his approach because (completely my fault I will admit) it was so hot I had taken a bit of drink but the bottle had made that noise plastic bottles do when u drink too much .. so the tiny little crinkle .. my bad should have waited ..
On the green if he sees any movement in his eye line that's it .. I mean even if ur waiting with putter in hand and a bit of light reflects
Statue still got to stand
Mandofred
Well-known member
I can understand that one. Baseball has a lot of its own etiquette rules about behavior towards others and there are sometimes rather violent "solutions" (as you can find all over YouTube and tv). Talking is ok.....talking/yelling at the pitcher is a no-no. Just now it hit me....I can still remember a series on tv here back in the 80's called Bodyline....where the England cricket team I believe started throwing directly at the Aussie batsmen.....
Just came in from my morning 5 mile walk....and while out there I was thinking about the noise issue. I'm assuming this example probably happens at other courses as well. On Saturday mornings, we usually have at least 4 decent sized rollup groups. For every one of those groups there is lots of talking and laughing while people are teeing off on the 1st.....it doesn't "seem" to bother anybody (I'm sure it does though). In fact....what can really drive somebody nuts is when it just suddenly gets quiet, that really gets them. Then......you head out on the course and the etiquette rule changes again.
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I've played in plenty of rollup groups where crowds have gathered on the 1st tee. There is always plenty of banter pre/post shot but they have always been quiet when the players are taking their shots. Sounds to me that someone needs to have a word with some of your members. Poor etiquette and no excuse for it.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
It's one of the small handful of etiquette things when one player is about to play that generates responses of the type - 'I don't know why you need me to mark my ball'; 'I don't know why you are that bothered at me chatting quietly'; 'I don't know why you don't want me to stand here'; 'I'd don't know why you want me to move my bag/trolley' - etc. To which my reply is always 'because I'd rather you did/didn't'.
Swinglowandslow
Well-known member
Yes, you have cleverly not expressly said that, but there are a number of phrases used in which you advocate that talking on the tee is OK. You criticise those who object to it, as making an unnecessary fuss if it is done when they tee off. That amounts to saying the talker's behaviour is OK and the player is wrong to complain about it.
Anyway you dress it up and fall back on semantics, you clearly advocate as acceptable behaviour for pps to talk whilst the player attempts the shot.
