why do ladies take so long to play a round?

[FairwayDodger]

The OP is, if course, pure drivel.

More worrying are the comments about women pros, as if slow play is confined to the women's tours. It isn't, and neither is the act of getting lined up by a caddy.

 

[need_my_wedge]

My wife currently plays off 36, we played 9 holes last weekend in an hour and a half, no one in front of us, and she played 9 under handicap with a net hole in one on one hole. The day prior to that we followed a number of all male 4 balls and took over 2.5 hours to play the same 9 holes... We were waiting on every single shot - she still shot 7 under handicap..

Slow play is not specifically a female problem, it is an issue present in all corners of the game, amateur and professional, male & female, adult and junior.

 

[bobmac]

In ladies pro golf the biggest waste of time seems to be the act of caddies lining up their player from behind and then moving out of the way so as not to infringe rule 14-2b. Aren't ladies capable of lining themselves up or something? I would like to see this rule amended so that assistance in lining up is prohibited at all times!

The caddys do not line them up, they line up themselves and the caddy just checks, a quick 'yeup' and steps away.

 

[delc]

The OP is, if course, pure drivel.

More worrying are the comments about women pros, as if slow play is confined to the women's tours. It isn't, and neither is the act of getting lined up by a caddy.

Caddies lining up their players seems to be less noticable on the men's tours, but they can still play excruciatingly slowly at times. At our club the young and hopefully fit juniors seem to be the slowest players, because they copy all the things they see the pros doing on TV, especially when they are on the greens, such as marking and lining up even tap in putts!

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

My wife currently plays off 36, we played 9 holes last weekend in an hour and a half, no one in front of us, and she played 9 under handicap with a net hole in one on one hole. The day prior to that we followed a number of all male 4 balls and took over 2.5 hours to play the same 9 holes... We were waiting on every single shot - she still shot 7 under handicap..

Slow play is not specifically a female problem, it is an issue present in all corners of the game, amateur and professional, male & female, adult and junior.

Where did she get her Sombrero from?
Sounds like a decent handicap cut will be coming soon, well done to her!

 

[delc]

The caddys do not line them up, they line up themselves and the caddy just checks, a quick 'yeup' and steps away.

So if they are not lined up correctly, they have to start again! Still a waste of time that should be banned in the rules!

 

[Deleted member 15344]

So if they are not lined up correctly, they have to start again! Still a waste of time that should be banned in the rules!

Why should it be banned ?

 

[bobmac]

So if they are not lined up correctly, they have to start again! Still a waste of time that should be banned in the rules!

I think you'll find they got on tour without the help of a caddy confirming their aim is correct so they can do it themselves.
But if it's allowed and it gives them the extra confidence that someone else has confirmed they are aiming straight then you cant knock it. It's probably quicker than someone without a caddy shuffling around wondering if they are straight or not.

 

[delc]

Why should it be banned ?

Because it slows down play. I have to line myself up because I can't afford to hire a caddy, and on the Ladies European Tour some of them also play without caddies.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Because it slows down play. I have to line myself up because I can't afford to hire a caddy, and on the Ladies European Tour some of them also play without caddies.

So do you want to ban caddies giving wind and distance and club and aim advice also ?

Just because you can't use a caddy isn't a reason to ban them !

 

[bobmac]

Delc
In ladies pro golf the biggest waste of time seems to be the act of caddies lining up their player from behind and then moving out of the way

Bob mac
The caddys do not line them up, they line up themselves and the caddy just checks, a quick 'yeup' and steps away.

[video=youtube;NdvV8dsP-xU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvV8dsP-xU[/video]

 

[USER1999]

The only thing that surprises me with that clip is that she didn't seem to have a strategy in place before getting to the tee. Surely this would have been discussed with the caddy the night before, rather than on the tee. Tight drive, hazards at 220, lay up if in contention, go for it with driver if birdie needed.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

on the Ladies European Tour some of them also play without caddies.

Really?! Wow, that surprises me!

 

[delc]

Really?! Wow, that surprises me!

I went and watched the Ladies European Masters at the Buckinghamshire last year, and a few of the players were definitely pulling their own clubs around on a trolley without a caddy.

 

[shewy]

Utter rubbish! We all know it's the seniors that hold everyone up.
Runs for cover lol

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Slow player is not exclusive to any group but the lining up of putts by caddies is an embarassment. These people are supposed to be professionals and yet they need their hands holding on the most basic of issues. Professional pride should prevent it happening but as that seems to have failed I would ban it on the grounds of slowing play. If you can't line up a putt, get off the tour.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Slow player is not exclusive to any group but the lining up of putts by caddies is an embarassment. These people are supposed to be professionals and yet they need their hands holding on the most basic of issues. Professional pride should prevent it happening but as that seems to have failed I would ban it on the grounds of slowing play. If you can't line up a putt, get off the tour.

Here here and the F1 Drivers should be made to get out the cars and refuel themselves😃
Why if the game allows you an advantage should we see it as wrong?
Caddies don't just line up putts, maybe Caddies should be banned and everyone gets a buggy, that'll speed it up.

 

[jp5]

I think you'll find they got on tour without the help of a caddy confirming their aim is correct so they can do it themselves.
But if it's allowed and it gives them the extra confidence that someone else has confirmed they are aiming straight then you cant knock it. It's probably quicker than someone without a caddy shuffling around wondering if they are straight or not.

Too many inconsistencies in golf and this is one of them. Not allowed an alignment aid, but you are allowed to get your caddy to line you up. I'd do away with it completely, if you can't tell whether you're lined up straight you shouldn't play golf for a living!

 

[Region3]

The only thing that surprises me with that clip is that she didn't seem to have a strategy in place before getting to the tee. Surely this would have been discussed with the caddy the night before, rather than on the tee. Tight drive, hazards at 220, lay up if in contention, go for it with driver if birdie needed.

Exactly. When the clip starts it was her turn to play and she hits the ball at 1:10

 

[delc]

Slow player is not exclusive to any group but the lining up of putts by caddies is an embarassment. These people are supposed to be professionals and yet they need their hands holding on the most basic of issues. Professional pride should prevent it happening but as that seems to have failed I would ban it on the grounds of slowing play. If you can't line up a putt, get off the tour.

I suppose the problem at that level is that players will do anything to get even a slight advantage, including getting their caddies to check their alignment before every shot. IMHO this form of assistance during a stipulated round should be banned.