Steve Wilkes
Well-known member
There's the mysterious 2 shotsBut then I'd just be off 13 instead of 11!
Why can't slope ratings be more fluid?
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
I know you're just being tongue-in-cheek, before I say this. But the whole point of bringing this system was create equity across different courses. If I have to only put cards in at my home course then it's doing the opposite!
cliveb
Head Pro
As a former member, I do have a soft spot for Grims Dyke, and in the context of this thread, I'm just supporting Orikoru's opinion that its CR and SR are too low.
You've stated that short tight courses are easy. Since Grims Dyke is an example of such a course, and you've previously dismissed it as too easy, I just wondered if you've ever played it and whether your score supported your claim that courses of this type are easy.
louise_a
Money List Winner
My course is generally reckoned to be harder than another local course, however I get 3 shots more playing the other course, the thing that makes ours harder is the we have a lot of penalty areas a lot of them yellow staked, however it seems that they do not really come into the rating on most holes due to the reliance on distance in the ratings, however mentally they have quite an effect when you are playing.
irip
Head Pro
I agree with what you say.
I think that being able to put a card in when not in a competition is a great move forward.
I think they didn’t need to bring in different handicaps for different tees or courses though.
As a side note do you think you maybe concentrate more when playing an away course as opposed to your home course?
D-S
Well-known member
I can only get this report for my County, I assume you have access to yours for Somerset - do you know anyone who can get it for the Grits Dyke (not sure if the name alone would put me off) County? It'd maybe interesting to see.
I am not sure who uses this report though, lead raters I know don't seem to.
rulefan
Tour Winner
Of course the Standard Scratch Score was only relevant to scratch players. Slope in effect relates scratch to bogey.
irip
Head Pro
Yes sorry. I can’t think what it was called that used to effect players in a competition
wjemather
Well-known member
Indeed. No, I don't have any contacts there.
While the report is available, it's usefulness is limited, as any egregious errors will get picked up during the checking process (county, regional, national).
Orikoru
Tour Winner
No, I don't. I play the same way no matter where I'm playing or what I'm playing for. Or at least, I try very hard to do that.
jim8flog
Journeyman Pro
Competition Standard Scratch (CSS0
It only affected players in their next comp if it changed their handicap not any one they were paying in when it was calculated.
Same idea as PCC.
Biggest difference was a mental one then - playing to ones handicap was playing to the CSS and could be any score in Stableford according to the course. These days 36 points is playing to handicap wherever you play.
Voyager EMH
Slipper Wearing Plucker of Pheasants
I think of playing to handicap as achieving the Score Differential nearest to my Handicap Index.
I think of Stableford points as giving me finishing position in a Stableford competition.
Against the course I don't have a handicap - just make the best gross score I can - achieve a Score Differential based on that gross score.
The Score Differential tells me the what-I-played-to score.
Gross Score - your golf score
Score Differential - what you played to.
I think of Stableford points as giving me finishing position in a Stableford competition.
Against the course I don't have a handicap - just make the best gross score I can - achieve a Score Differential based on that gross score.
The Score Differential tells me the what-I-played-to score.
Gross Score - your golf score
Score Differential - what you played to.
