FairwayDodger
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That's a facile argument though. Nobody ever has to come out as straight, that's the default assumption. The very need and purpose of coming out is to counter that assumption.
Who will be the first male tour player to come out gay?
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That's a facile argument though. Nobody ever has to come out as straight, that's the default assumption. The very need and purpose of coming out is to counter that assumption.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I get what he was saying though. If I was gay and a pro golfer I wouldn't make a big announcement about it because it's not relevant to anything.
mcbroon
Journeyman Pro
It may not be relevant to how anyone plays the game, or whether theyd be welcome at each of our clubs. However, it is relevant in a wider sense. Golf takes tournaments and a lot of money from countries where homosexuality is illegal. The more players who come out, the better, IMO, as it helps to focus on the issue and, gradually, it will hopefully become irrelevant in both senses.
Although as FD says, nobody should feel forced to come out if they don't want to.
Although as FD says, nobody should feel forced to come out if they don't want to.
londonlewis
Tour Rookie
I get you and agree that people don't have to come out as being straight.
Maybe it was just because you said people should be more open about their sexuality. I'm not trying to nit-pick at all, I pretty much agree with what you've said.
FairwayDodger
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It's maybe a subtle distinction but I think it would be good if people were more open about their sexuality rather than that they *should* be. It's up to each individual.
FairwayDodger
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It's not about a big announcement, though, is it? It's just about being able to be open about who you are. It's about having your partner to meet you when you come off the 18th green after winning the open etc.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Well yeah I agree. It's just the topic starter mentions 'coming out' as if to make a big deal out of it. I'd rather as you say, if there are any players in same sex relationships, just don't feel like they need to hide it I guess.
You never know though, there might genuinely not be any gay men on the tour. Unlikely but not impossible.
Capella
Journeyman Pro
Of course gay players aren't expected to wear an "I am gay" t-shirt or give a press conference anything like that. But if they bring a boyfriend or husband to an official event where other players bring their female partners, that would send the message just as clearly and they should be able to do that. No further explanation needed.
:thup:
bluewolf
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The sponsors do. This forum might be populated by modern thinkers (😉
but individual sponsors rarely are...
BubbaP
Occasional Player of Golf
Never heard of these countries 😃😀🙂
I get the fact that sponsors may find openly gay golfer, especially a top player, hard to reconcile with their product. It seems the LPGA is more acceptable and aren't there some gay women already "out"? I hope all tours can find a way forward as golf is an inclusive sport as we know and we need to have role models of all persuasions
Capella
Journeyman Pro
*lol* yeah, I was wondering when somebody would notice. I picked it up yesterday, but could not edit the comment anymore, because somebody had already answered.
FairwayDodger
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Can't help but wonder how many major international sporting events would be held in such a country.
Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
I've often wondered about Richart.
He hits it like a tart....
He hits it like a tart....
Mark_Aged_42
Assistant Pro
The watershed moment will be when a gay player wins a Major, and their same sex partner rushes on to the green to congratulate them in the usual fashion.
Will the cameras pan away (especially if the coverage comes from the US)?
Will the cameras pan away (especially if the coverage comes from the US)?
FairwayDodger
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Here's a good piece on coming out, covering something that many might not consider.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-homophobic-fear-of-rejection-gay-shame-lgbt
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-homophobic-fear-of-rejection-gay-shame-lgbt
dewsweeper
Tour Rookie
*lol* yeah, I was wondering when somebody would notice. I picked it up yesterday, but could not edit the comment anymore, because somebody had already answered.
It is not inconceivable that in ,perhaps, 2070 there will such countries!
Jensen
Tour Rookie
Apparently, statistics state that 1 in 10 people are gay, therefore there must be a gay player on tour and at every golf club.
My own brother in law (wife's brother) is gay, who I love as a person. Indeed I've had a few nights out with him on the gay scene. So I would welcome anyone at my club who is gay. Furthermore I would go out of my way to make them feel welcome
My own brother in law (wife's brother) is gay, who I love as a person. Indeed I've had a few nights out with him on the gay scene. So I would welcome anyone at my club who is gay. Furthermore I would go out of my way to make them feel welcome
FairwayDodger
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Indeed! Unless the zombie apocalypse happens first.... or maybe we all de-evolve into amoebas...
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