Who is going to win the premiership title.

Papas1982 said:
Do'h auto pilot, I know it's Henry now. Saw an article of his other half the other day. She's better than Romans. I guess money can buy something's lol
Ok Phil you're one of the few then. As always seems to be the case. Because I know plenty of pools fans and they'd all like a rich sugar daddy making things easier. Don't get me wrong, if you manage to go into an era of dominance as you are then that's great. Just as UTD doing it sustainably was. But I maintain that most (you excluded) would be happy to take a sugar daddy.
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I can bet you im not one of a few - im not sure which Liverpool fans you speak to or know - maybe the internet ones but i havent seen many Liverpool fans wanting oil billionares to take over the club in the same way as Chelsea and City
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can bet you im not one of a few - im not sure which Liverpool fans you speak to or know - maybe the internet ones but i havent seen many Liverpool fans wanting oil billionares to take over the club in the same way as Chelsea and City
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every fan in Kent n Southampton That I know. At some point or other it has come up that they would of accepted one. Generally it was around time Gillette screwed you up. It's very easy now things are going well to say that you wouldn't want one. But I think most, when things weren't going so well, no Europe, buying mid level players etc that would of accepted oil money. Of course getting someone to admit that is like get blood from a stone in some cases.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I can bet you im not one of a few - im not sure which Liverpool fans you speak to or know - maybe the internet ones but i havent seen many Liverpool fans wanting oil billionares to take over the club in the same way as Chelsea and City
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http://forums.golf-monthly.co.uk/showthread.php?59887-David-Moyes/page115
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So what big Liverpool fans have you actually been talking to?? slime-ed twice in 1 week :o:rofl::rofl::rofl:
I'll put you back on my ignore list now Phillipa,couldn't resist.
Have a good night :thup:
 
Papas1982 said:
every fan in Kent n Southampton That I know. At some point or other it has come up that they would of accepted one. Generally it was around time Gillette screwed you up. It's very easy now things are going well to say that you wouldn't want one. But I think most, when things weren't going so well, no Europe, buying mid level players etc that would of accepted oil money. Of course getting someone to admit that is like get blood from a stone in some cases.
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How many is that ?

Again no most wouldnt have wanted Oil money

You only have to read some of the Liverpool forums like Rawk or the Rattle or LFC Reds to see clearly that maybe a small minority of supporters ( normally the overseas ones ) wanted an Oil billionaire in - mainly so they can play Champ Manager with our club

Even when things werent going well - we still wouldnt want a Abramovich to buy our club

Even Andy has said the exact same thing and you will get the same response from most.
 
Pin-seeker said:
Aaaaawwwww the good old forum fans :rofl:
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Or possibly friends i grew up with around the city and area that i talk to over e mails or skype or facebook or phone

Or the guys that organise the pre game meets in various cities across the forums

Like i said nice effort - try harder next time.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
How many is that ?

Again no most wouldnt have wanted Oil money

You only have to read some of the Liverpool forums like Rawk or the Rattle or LFC Reds to see clearly that maybe a small minority of supporters ( normally the overseas ones ) wanted an Oil billionaire in - mainly so they can play Champ Manager with our club

Even when things werent going well - we still wouldnt want a Abramovich to buy our club

Even Andy has said the exact same thing and you will get the same response from most.
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Not sure how to take that! :mmm:

I'm on TLW and the arguments over this have raged for years. Most, if not all, from Liverpool don't want one with most from the rest of the country not wanting one either but some foreign supporters have wanted success at all cost without truly understanding the meaning it has to be a fan of LFC to many of us.
 
Andy808 said:
Not sure how to take that! :mmm:

I'm on TLW and the arguments over this have raged for years. Most, if not all, from Liverpool don't want one with most from the rest of the country not wanting one either but some foreign supporters have wanted success at all cost without truly understanding the meaning it has to be a fan of LFC to many of us.
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Meant in a good way

And you have summed it up perfectly :thup:
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Sorry i didnt realise you had to be stood next to them to talk them

Imagine where we would be without phones or emails or internet :rolleyes:

Nice effort - must try harder next time
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so forum members you'd speak to are proper fans, but if I'd onky heard it on forums they wouldn't be proper fans?

ok then.

Its t's my fault really, when will I learn that I'd be better head butting my brick wall.
 
Andy808 said:
Not sure how to take that! :mmm:

I'm on TLW and the arguments over this have raged for years. Most, if not all, from Liverpool don't want one with most from the rest of the country not wanting one either but some foreign supporters have wanted success at all cost without truly understanding the meaning it has to be a fan of LFC to many of us.
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Not wanting to get into another big discussion on the vapours of Liverpool. But is is one of the things of Liverpool supporters that frustrates me. This phrase or things similar get bandied about like your a group if super fans better than all others. As some on here have attempted to deride UTD fans for wanting Moyes out and yet Hodgson was treated the same and is still given grief. Rafa for that matter, towards the end people wanted shot. I even heard some same he fluked the champs league and that kept him in his job, only to later say his was the saviour and always welcomed back if he wanted the job.

As as fans I know we all think the best of our clubs. Maybe it's different supporting a big team as you don't have the same per active as the rest of us. I dunno, maybe others will come on here and say they've never met pool supporters like this. Maybe.
 
Papas1982 said:
so forum members you'd speak to are proper fans, but if I'd onky heard it on forums they wouldn't be proper fans?

ok then.

Its t's my fault really, when will I learn that I'd be better head butting my brick wall.
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I speak to Liverpool fans that i grew up with , Liverpool fans from the city , Liverpool fans from around the country and Liverpool fans from abroad all through various methods and meets and pre game drinks or events and Anfield and some on forums like Rawk.

here is exactly what Andy has said which you seem to ignore

Most, if not all, from Liverpool don't want one with most from the rest of the country not wanting one either but some foreign supporters have wanted success at all cost without truly understanding the meaning it has to be a fan of LFC to many of us

A few times now you have made "suggestions" about Liverpool fans - how better to know Liverpool fans than other Liverpool fans.

Both myself and Andy have told you through our experience of our own fans our feelings - not sure why you refuse to believe that.
 
Papas1982 said:
Not wanting to get into another big discussion on the vapours of Liverpool. But is is one of the things of Liverpool supporters that frustrates me. This phrase or things similar get bandied about like your a group if super fans better than all others. As some on here have attempted to deride UTD fans for wanting Moyes out and yet Hodgson was treated the same and is still given grief. Rafa for that matter, towards the end people wanted shot. I even heard some same he fluked the champs league and that kept him in his job, only to later say his was the saviour and always welcomed back if he wanted the job.

As as fans I know we all think the best of our clubs. Maybe it's different supporting a big team as you don't have the same per active as the rest of us. I dunno, maybe others will come on here and say they've never met pool supporters like this. Maybe.
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Where do you hear all these things from Liverpool fans ? Serious question.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Where do you hear all these things from Liverpool fans ? Serious question.
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In Southampton whilst working for p and o freight our two other offices were Felixstowe and Liverpool. A lot of staff training would involve time at other offices as such a. Lot of Liverpudlians would work in the office from time to time. Now in Kent there are 7 supporters in my current office as well as most of my social circle being made up with Liverpool or spurs supporters. Not sure why but Kent don't seem to have many gillingham or Charkton fans.

You have pointed out that you and Andy have the same feelings about it, which is nice and all, but of the fans I've spoken to, you're only 2 of them and are in the minority (of who I've spoken to) not of all fans as you would suggest.

I havent done done it with an agenda, just raised points of have spotted in the fans I know.

As as to the points in my last post, you yourself mocked UTD fans saying they were like all the rest now for hounding Moyes out, which not all of them did.
 
Papas1982 said:
In Southampton whilst working for p and o freight our two other offices were Felixstowe and Liverpool. A lot of staff training would involve time at other offices as such a. Lot of Liverpudlians would work in the office from time to time. Now in Kent there are 7 supporters in my current office as well as most of my social circle being made up with Liverpool or spurs supporters. Not sure why but Kent don't seem to have many gillingham or Charkton fans.

You have pointed out that you and Andy have the same feelings about it, which is nice and all, but of the fans I've spoken to, you're only 2 of them and are in the minority (of who I've spoken to) not of all fans as you would suggest.

I havent done done it with an agenda, just raised points of have spotted in the fans I know.

As as to the points in my last post, you yourself mocked UTD fans saying they were like all the rest now for hounding Moyes out, which not all of them did.
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So you are talking about a handful of fans then - i would be extremely confident that those handful would be in a minority of people wanting a oil baron to take over the club - certainly if any of them where around when we had the Moores family running the club.

Its also worth remembering that many Liverpool fans believe the club is theirs and the owners are just looking after it for us.

You may think that Liverpool fans have a high opinion of their support but we do believe we are a special bunch - we have had to stick together through some awful times in our history and it made us stronger. Its that gave people relief from all the troubles in the 70's and 80's with jobs and people wanting the city to rot - we felt we had to look after ourselves - hence the "scouse not english" sayings. The one thing that made us proud was our football teams and the way it divide a city or even made a city stronger. You have families full of both sets of supporters - how many other clubs would have had no segregated fans at Cup finals ? Even now in derbies you see them stood next to each other - we believe we are a rare bunch and its more than a football club for us - its life.

as for your last point - that was called "banter" and taking the mickey hence the "wanting Moyes to stay in charge"
 
Liverpoolphil said:
So you are talking about a handful of fans then - i would be extremely confident that those handful would be in a minority of people wanting a oil baron to take over the club - certainly if any of them where around when we had the Moores family running the club.

Its also worth remembering that many Liverpool fans believe the club is theirs and the owners are just looking after it for us.

You may think that Liverpool fans have a high opinion of their support but we do believe we are a special bunch - we have had to stick together through some awful times in our history and it made us stronger. Its that gave people relief from all the troubles in the 70's and 80's with jobs and people wanting the city to rot - we felt we had to look after ourselves - hence the "scouse not english" sayings. The one thing that made us proud was our football teams and the way it divide a city or even made a city stronger. You have families full of both sets of supporters - how many other clubs would have had no segregated fans at Cup finals ? Even now in derbies you see them stood next to each other - we believe we are a rare bunch and its more than a football club for us - its life.

as for your last point - that was called "banter" and taking the mickey hence the "wanting Moyes to stay in charge"
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Well like I said, I'm only basing it on pool fans I've met, granted it's only a handful in light of their total number of supporters. But it's a significant (100+) enough amount for which I'd base an opinion on. I fully agree on the footy uniting the city though. And having been to both anfield and goodison on a few occasions I do think they're great grounds. I just genuinely believe that pool fans can sometimes believe there the yard stick on all footballer matters. Again that's only based in those that I've met, and it's not something that makes me judge pool fans out of hand. I'd happily chew the fat with them as I think I've shown on here in the past.
 
Papas1982 said:
Well like I said, I'm only basing it on pool fans I've met, granted it's only a handful in light of their total number of supporters. But it's a significant (100+) enough amount for which I'd base an opinion on. I fully agree on the footy uniting the city though. And having been to both anfield and goodison on a few occasions I do think they're great grounds. I just genuinely believe that pool fans can sometimes believe there the yard stick on all footballer matters. Again that's only based in those that I've met, and it's not something that makes me judge pool fans out of hand. I'd happily chew the fat with them as I think I've shown on here in the past.
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If you want to see what Liverpool fans think of owners and who should own the club then look at SOS which has a great deal of members and see who they want to own the club - and thats not a oil owner.

Like i said the fans believe the club is theirs - they wouldnt ever want a oil baron to use it as a toy
 
There is a fundamental difference between LFC, it's fans and other clubs. Not all other clubs but some that have been mentioned on here.
A friend of mine supports another PL club ( I won't mention which one) and we have had an argument about who the players play for.
For me as an LFC supporter our players play for the club, what the club stands for and for the fans. He maintains they don't, they play for the manager. I asked if the players play for the manager why have so many stayed after the manager has left and why do so many of them kiss the badge on their shirt when they score a goal? Why have Terry and Lampard (oops did I give it away!) not leave the club for far more lucrative deals when they had the chance?
You have the likes of City and Chavski who have spend ridiculous amounts of money on players but that is all they are, players but not a team. Both teams have far too many egos to be able to gel them as a fully functioning team.
Last year Aberdeen won the Scottish cup final and had 100,000 fans turn out for the teams parade of the cup. Chelsea won the CL and had 75,000 fans turn out to see their team with the most prestigious trophy in European club football. LFC had over 600,000 fans line the streets for our win in Istambul in 05 (and I was there!).
Why?
Because for most LFC fans it goes beyond just watching the game or buying a shirt we are one big family with a passion which in turn rubs off on the players who don't feel it's a right to wear the shirt but an honour to wear.
We have one of the best strikers in the world on current form who is more than happy to play a ball to a 19 year old hot shot to guarantee getting the goal rather than taking on every shot as if it's his right being a striker. The whole team play the same way with very few squabbles on the pitch and all the team put in a shift at each match. You rarely see that from the entire City or Chelsea squad.
 
Andy808 said:
There is a fundamental difference between LFC, it's fans and other clubs. Not all other clubs but some that have been mentioned on here.
A friend of mine supports another PL club ( I won't mention which one) and we have had an argument about who the players play for.
For me as an LFC supporter our players play for the club, what the club stands for and for the fans. He maintains they don't, they play for the manager. I asked if the players play for the manager why have so many stayed after the manager has left and why do so many of them kiss the badge on their shirt when they score a goal? Why have Terry and Lampard (oops did I give it away!) not leave the club for far more lucrative deals when they had the chance?
You have the likes of City and Chavski who have spend ridiculous amounts of money on players but that is all they are, players but not a team. Both teams have far too many egos to be able to gel them as a fully functioning team.
Last year Aberdeen won the Scottish cup final and had 100,000 fans turn out for the teams parade of the cup. Chelsea won the CL and had 75,000 fans turn out to see their team with the most prestigious trophy in European club football. LFC had over 600,000 fans line the streets for our win in Istambul in 05 (and I was there!).
Why?
Because for most LFC fans it goes beyond just watching the game or buying a shirt we are one big family with a passion which in turn rubs off on the players who don't feel it's a right to wear the shirt but an honour to wear.
We have one of the best strikers in the world on current form who is more than happy to play a ball to a 19 year old hot shot to guarantee getting the goal rather than taking on every shot as if it's his right being a striker. The whole team play the same way with very few squabbles on the pitch and all the team put in a shift at each match. You rarely see that from the entire City or Chelsea squad.
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Summed up perfectly well

The parade was maazing

Remember trying to get back to Liverpool from Istanbul and just being shoved on any plane regardless of what my ticket said

Flew into Bham then got train up - dont think i slept for over 48 hours but was just the best 3 days of my life !!
 
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