Pin-seeker
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How many times do we see this happening? Look at Swansea. I expected Southampton to do the same tbh & it's cost me a dozen Z Stars
Who is going to win the premiership title.
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How many times do we see this happening? Look at Swansea. I expected Southampton to do the same tbh & it's cost me a dozen Z Stars
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If thats the case why do we see fouls given week in week out for challenge's were the player wins the ball cleanly but takes the man with the follow through?
Like i said i thought it was a soft pen but watching it slo mo from 9 million angles it looks a foul imo.
How many times do we see this happening? Look at Swansea. I expected Southampton to do the same tbh & it's cost me a dozen Z Stars
Cant say I'm gutted to hear that. Without Pinocchio maybe it would if happened. But I had every confidence we'd improve. Top gets me £50 bucks from me boss!
Pin-seeker
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I didn't want you to fail. Just didn't expect you to get top 10 tbh. A lot of teams seem to struggle after having a good season.
Because it's a goalkeeper that does it. If he had two hands on the ball and sent Suarez 10ft in the air it wouldn't be a foul, but if a defender won the ball cleanly and sent a player flying you'd get the foul. Like I said I don't think it was a glaring mistake and can see why it was given. But if ex players (Liverpool ones at that) are saying it's an error I'd side with them. Ass the that. During the post match interview when Rodgers said it was a CLEAR pen, he had to pause and say hang on, here from this angle you see it. Most tackles can seem one thing if looked at from the right angle.
Most fans won't admit if their team get the benefits of such decision, I'd imagine I'd be the same. But as I've said, if a keeper touches the ball (before the player) then he's won the ball. Thems the rules IMO, maybe I've misunderstood them.
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Will be a test for them this summer with clubs circling for players like Lallana, Shaw , Lovren
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What if the keeper has a slight touch on the ball but doesn't effect it's path and then takes the player out ? If the player hadn't been taken out he possibly could go on to score ?
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I've already said it was a soft pen but the goalie came over the top of the ball and caught the player. Pen.
It's only my opinion of course!
Shaw will cost somebody £30m and as good as he is. A LB doesn't save your season. I'd be happy to see clone at lb as young chambers is a quality looking rb already.
Young ward prowse will be good cover in midfield if lallana leaves. Again we'll still want £15m plus (could be more wc depending) for someone who I believe will be an England regular for years now. Ward prowse and Ramirez (plays same position and hasn't been given a chance) will cover there.
Lovren will cost at least £15m as we'll only sell for a decent profit.
We we need a couple of cb even with Lovren staying, but with £60m I'm sure we could find some.
Thats not not including the next crop of youngsters like Sam Gallagher who are coming through the ranks.
Ill happily take a gentlemens £10 bet with whoever thinks relegation will be an issue for saints next season
A Liverpool supporters opinion so of course ya think its a pen.
He he touched ball so not a pen.
But hey. You got the result you deserved and Gerrard is my dreamteam captain so I'm happy for you to get pens a plenty!
Pin-seeker
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If he gets a touch it's no penalty. Same as if a defender slides in & gets a touch.
bladeplayer
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I agree if it deflects the ball away , just a thought tho what if its over the ball ..the boy still got to the ball ,if he wasnt tripped he would have gotten to it standing up
Tashyboy
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he was in his element sat at the side of a 5yr old kid who was singing all the city songs, started telling me about all the pubs that used to be where city's ground is now situated. He worked at Bradford colliery (on the site of the etihad) had another trip down memory lane. He had 2 Hollands pies before game and one after. Not bad to say 6 months ago he could not eat half of one.
still talks about when he used to watch city one week with his utd mates then went to the swamp the following week with his rag mates. For years his mates who supported city and the rags went to one another's games. Can't quite see that happening nowadays.
ps cheers liver birdie an liver phil
Pin-seeker
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I don't know,all I know is on MOTD & in the sky studio they always ask the question,did the defender/keeper get a touch? If yes it's no penalty. Regardless of how strong the touch was.
richart
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Usually if the keeper gets a touch it is not a penalty. Unless he comes out two footed and takes the ball and player which is unusual. Out field players often take the ball first, but their follow through can take out the player, and can be extremely dangerous. Rolling your foot over the ball is another nasty one.
In this case he does affect it though. It's direction may have stayed the same, but it clearly pops up and slows. I'm not saying the rules are right or wrong. But IMO and that of the pundits, people I tend to feel have a good sense having played it professionally. If the keeper touches the ball first he's done his bit and isn't obliged to get out of the way.
I agree if the player isn't touched he may have scored, but the there are times a player may stay on his feet and miss an open goal having been clipped by a keeper but he'd still be given a eon even though he's missed the chance.
I didn't think 14th was particular great tbh. Obviously safety is first though. But from first game against city, amd before then in championship I believed our team and style of play was good enough to stay up safely.
I think swansea will will be fine next year too if they play their passing style. Their squad was just too small to cope with Europe too. I think they would be a hinderance for us so not to bothered we missed out in fa cup.
Pin-seeker
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Yes if it dangerous play then I agree,I doesn't matter if you get the ball or not.
Liverbirdie
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I know
Pretty much conforms that they do even themselves out tho doesn't it:thup:
Nope, it proves however that a ref will sometimes try to even up a shocking decision with another shocking decision.
Decisions do not even themselves out over a season - pure cliched rubbish.
agreed! How many away teams have been awarded pens at old Trafford for example? I believe Liverpools hat trick of them last month was more than total of about 5 years! Dubious decisions favour the big teams. Maybe not on every occasion, but I'd hazard that 75% of dubious decisions give benefit to larger teams as refs bottle it.
