White stakes!

A ball is out of bounds when all of it lies out of bounds. A player may stand out of bounds to play a ball lying within bounds.

This isn't strictly true, is it?

I thought a ball could be sat on the marked OOB line or an imaginary line between 2 stakes and if the arc of the ball was towards the OOB then it was OOB but if the arc was towards the course even though it was on the line, it was deemed in?!

Hence in the picture I just found, A is in and C is out, but your stating that the ball has to be "all out", that statement is not right!

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This isn't strictly true, is it?

I thought a ball could be sat on the marked OOB line or an imaginary line between 2 stakes and if the arc of the ball was towards the OOB then it was OOB but if the arc was towards the course even though it was on the line, it was deemed in?!

Hence in the picture I just found, A is in and C is out, but your stating that the ball has to be "all out", that statement is not right!

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I copied the definition of OOB from the R&A rules website, so it is unlikely to be wrong! If there is a white line, then the whole width of it is included in the OOB.
 
Del is quite correct. The ball must be wholly over the line. Try thinking of the boundary line as having no width whereas a painted line does. The whole of the painted line lies OOB and so the actual boundary is the course edge of the painted line. Now look at the picture again. Which ball, if any, has fully crossed the edge and is OOB ?
 
Del is quite correct. The ball must be wholly over the line. Try thinking of the boundary line as having no width whereas a painted line does. The whole of the painted line lies OOB and so the actual boundary is the course edge of the painted line. Now look at the picture again. Which ball, if any, has fully crossed the edge and is OOB ?

A is OK, B & C OOB's? or am i thick?
 
Paul, you may be thick for all I know, but I wouldn’t be so impolite as to comment. :whistle:

Perfectly sharp, however, in this one. A is on the course; B & C are out of bounds as you say.

Thanks Colin😃
 
Paul, you may be thick for all I know, but I wouldn’t be so impolite as to comment. :whistle:

Perfectly sharp, however, in this one. A is on the course; B & C are out of bounds as you say.

Exactly this and if there are stakes or fenceposts the boundary is a straight line between the inside points of the posts at ground level
 
We have an internal out of bounds (added to stop people cutting a corner by playing onto another fairway). The post that define it are white on one side but green on the other as OOB only applies on one hole. So confusingly you can remove the post on one hole (green facing) but not on the other (white facing).

Causes confusion to visitors on some members.

Ive heard of a course with in air out of bounds.. so even if your ball travels over said area its OOB even if it lands back in
 
Assume as per the decision it was an attempt to stop people cutting the corner off a dogleg.

I've played a course in Germany called GC Erlangen where the 1st hole is a C shaped dogleg going around the greenkeeping shed with the the green near the clubhouse who have "aerial OoB" for that reason. Might post a picture a bit later.

Still an unauthorised local rule mind.
 
I've played a course in Germany called GC Erlangen where the 1st hole is a C shaped dogleg going around the greenkeeping shed with the the green near the clubhouse who have "aerial OoB" for that reason. Might post a picture a bit later.

Still an unauthorised local rule mind.
By whom or how would it be judged that the ball had gone out of bounds in the air? Generally a ball has to lie out of bounds to be OOB!
 
By whom or how would it be judged that the ball had gone out of bounds in the air? Generally a ball has to lie out of bounds to be OOB!

Not generally, factually it either is or isn't. If they were hosting an event they could't really do anything RoG wise about someone taking it over the OoB, ok its difficult because of trees so you would have to hit a massive hook to get it round but certainly doable.

Here it is: Yellow line is 180 to the turning point and then 100 yards centre green. Red line as the crow flies 148 yards front edge.
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Can I open a gate to play a shot?

Scenario - ball rests up against OOB line on edge of course, right up against the fence - but on closer inspection the section of the fence is actually a gate. Am I permitted to open the gate in order to stand OOB and play my shot? The ball was 100% in play.

Was only a bounce game but interested to know nonetheless.
 
Can I open a gate to play a shot?

Scenario - ball rests up against OOB line on edge of course, right up against the fence - but on closer inspection the section of the fence is actually a gate. Am I permitted to open the gate in order to stand OOB and play my shot? The ball was 100% in play.

Was only a bounce game but interested to know nonetheless.
I would think it is ok by the rules of golf to open the gate to play if the ball is in bounds unless there is a local rule saying you cannot as you would in theory be trespassing on land not owned/leased by the club which could cause the club bother.
 
In the early 1990's I recall advising a council on a design plan for a new course. One hole had a hairpin dog leg of 410 yards with a 200 yard OOB line on the right hand side.
It was an on site meeting and I asked for a 7 iron and a ball. I skelped the ball over some trees and a burn onto the planned green area.
The rather gobsmacked owner said I could not do that as I had gone OOB.:o

Strangely enough a council [in England] cannot advise change on the design plan of a new course no matter how awful it is. I have seen a few beuties!
They can only force change on safety issues.
I actually made an Open venue change an alteration plan slightly because of safety concerns.....they were not too impressed.
 
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