When do you think you will next play golf?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Well if the lockdown goes on for, say, another 6weeks, and because of that the government asks all golf clubs to open up their course to the public for exercise where does that leave a golfers 'right' to play...?

IMO it's nonsense trying to make a case for golf separate from every other pursuit. We just have to accept that a golf club and it's course is a place of social gathering - and so no matter what we might plead - places of social gathering are closed. We just have to accept that we are part of the whole struggling to cope with lockdown; that golfers - like everyone else - lose their leisure pursuit for this time. We are not special. We are just the same as everyone else.

 

[Papas1982]

Numbers merely based on a what of scenario and I did say in there numbers can vary. Even so take it down to single play only and its still in the thousands of unnecessary journeys.

Its just my opinion but some of the stuff on this thread and social media in general is certainly indicative of people (golfers) having a sense of entitlement and thinking golf should be allowed before other things.

Yeah I did concede that even halved the numbers would be too high.

Obviously being on a golf forum, we’re gonna see the outpours of frustation, but as far as I’m aware nobody is sneaking out for a round, Which shows that despite what may be read online lot more discipline is being shown than many of the general public.

I’d be intrigued how the mood of the public would change if suddenly everyone’s one and only hobby stopped (whatever it was).

 

[Imurg]

So there you go.
All those babbling on about unnecessary car journeys.
Also, judging by the amount of cyclists I am seeing out & about, it looks like the cure for the virus is to dress up in licra & go out on a 20 mile bike ride.
Get the courses openView attachment 30010.

With the greatest of respect, and, by the way, I largely agree with you, it's getting a bit boring.
We're not the ones you need to convince.
Have you lobbied the authorities at all..?

 

[Wolf]

Yeah I did concede that even halved the numbers would be too high.

Obviously being on a golf forum, we’re gonna see the outpours of frustation, but as far as I’m aware nobody is sneaking out for a round, Which shows that despite what may be read online lot more discipline is being shown than many of the general public.

I’d be intrigued how the mood of the public would change if suddenly everyone’s one and only hobby stopped (whatever it was).

For me its a very simple conundrum people's health across the country is far more important than the desire of people wanting to play golf.

Equally any cyclists out in Peloton fashion should be cracked down on.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

@Doodle I'm trying to work out which previously banned poster you are

 

[Doodle]

With the greatest of respect, and, by the way, I largely agree with you, it's getting a bit boring.
We're not the ones you need to convince.
Have you lobbied the authorities at all..?

No, I haven't lobbied any authorities because I would be wasting my time.
I fully understand the need to protect the vulnerable & stop the spread, but the lockdown is to broad & causing huge economic & social damage.
Large stores, B&Q, Garden Centres, golf courses should all be open with restrictions for economic & mental health reasons.
I am amazed that so few on here can't see that & are content to swallow the Government line.
Yes the virus is very serious, but it is absolutely possible to carry on a semblance of normal life whilst observing social distancing & being sensible & careful.

 

[IanM]

Our Head Green Keeper just posted some photos of the course on Facebook.... blimey it is looking good!

But I wonder... is this helping me in lockdown or not????

 

[Doodle]

@Doodle I'm trying to work out which previously banned poster you are

Why?
Because I have a different opinion to the majority?
Is this not a discussion forum where people are free to air their views?
Or is it a dictatorship where we all have to conform to to populist opinion?
I haven't abused anyone or sworn, perhaps you would like me banned because you don't agree with me?
Are you a Socialist by any chance?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Our Head Green Keeper just posted some photos of the course on Facebook.... blimey it is looking good!

But I wonder... is this helping me in lockdown or not????

View attachment 30014

Our head greenie did the same - I did wonder as you

 

[Deleted member 21258]

Why?
Because I have a different opinion to the majority?
Is this not a discussion forum where people are free to air their views?
Or is it a dictatorship where we all have to conform to to populist opinion?
I haven't abused anyone or sworn, perhaps you would like me banned because you don't agree with me?
Are you a Socialist by any chance?

Don't worry, its the normal group hug kind of like thing, that this forum does to 'outsiders', but come along to a forum meet and everything will be fine and dandy

Have a good weekend and enjoy the forum, personally haven't read anything you have said that has bothered me and it reads better than my posts.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Why?
Because I have a different opinion to the majority?
Is this not a discussion forum where people are free to air their views?
Or is it a dictatorship where we all have to conform to to populist opinion?
I haven't abused anyone or sworn, perhaps you would like me banned because you don't agree with me?
Are you a Socialist by any chance?

LOL You suggest that only Socialists care about the wider society and the greater good; only socialists understand that as individuals we are part of a whole, where the well-being of the whole matters as much - if not more at the moment - than the well-being of the individual?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Why?
Because I have a different opinion to the majority? You are perfectly free to have a different opinion
Is this not a discussion forum where people are free to air their views? Yes it is
Or is it a dictatorship where we all have to conform to to populist opinion? Nope
I haven't abused anyone or sworn, perhaps you would like me banned because you don't agree with me? Where did I say I want you banned?
Are you a Socialist by any chance? No I'm not

 

[IanM]

Doodle has a point about certain shops.... BUT - if you open this one, why not another one? So the line in the sand is further back than ideal. Then we are back to the limiting journeys chat again.

Trouble is, you need to be more draconian than the ideal, as the idiots take the mick as it is.

Underlying thing is, the more we limit contact, the more we slow the spread, we take pressure off NHS and fewer folk will die. Someone offers me golf on 1st July - I am happy with that if it means more of my friends and family (and everyone's) are here for Xmas.

No right answers here, just folk trying to do their best

 

[Mick68]

I, probably like most, can see both sides of the argument. Obviously people are dying and in the overall scheme of things golf is insignificant. However if they're going to force rules onto us they have to be consistent and logical. A runner going round a park or on a pavement comes far closer to far more people than a solo golfer, as do people out walking. If they had said walking, running, cycling and the golf authorities had said golfers can play no more than 6 holes on their own while socially distancing at all times I don't think the public or government would have protested. It's too late now and I haven't and won't play until the ban is lifted.

 

[Bazz]

I wouldn't be so sure. They are working press briefing to press briefing.

What can we say or do to get through another day and look like we care and are taking action?

Is probably as far as the conversations go.

Like I said, we aren't stopping people dying and we can't stay in lockdown for ever.

Yeah, probably make it up 5 minutes before they go on air.

 

[Deleted member 18588]

This discussion continues and yet still many are overlooking the issue I originally raised.

Partial and restricted reopening of golf clubs and courses will have major financial implications .

Clubs would find that they would be faced with virtually full costs for course maintenance plus increased "policing" costs but with far less income than normal.

Until restrictions can be lifted sufficiently for bars to be open, for casual visitors to return and the vast majority of members pay their subs I think we have to accept that it may be financial constraints rather than Government imposed restrictions that will prevent us from playing.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Just prior to the lockdown, my club imposed several restrictions. They closed the bar but you could sit outside (obviously enforcing SD measures) and they would bring food/drinks out to you and the halfway hut remained open for a takeaway service only so still some income coming in. The pro shop was also open but restricted to two customers at a time.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This discussion continues and yet still many are overlooking the issue I originally raised.

Partial and restricted reopening of golf clubs and courses will have major financial implications .

Clubs would find that they would be faced with virtually full costs for course maintenance plus increased "policing" costs but with far less income than normal.

Until restrictions can be lifted sufficiently for bars to be open, for casual visitors to return and the vast majority of members pay their subs I think we have to accept that it may be financial constraints rather than Government imposed restrictions that will prevent us from playing.

Most courses are already paying for the majority of their green staff to work , suspect most courses will be fine to have the course playable without having any extra courses

And then you also add in how many members who stopped paying DD would start up again because the course is open.

There isn’t too much extra cost on just having the course open

Don’t see it as being “major” financial implications and there is no way that the majority of clubs will stay closed until the bar can be opened up. Clubs will find a way to keep going even on restrictions.

 

[Doodle]

Another reason why we should be playing, to keep these loons from destroying our courses.
Taken from Twitter.

 

[Doodle]

The same loon.
Taken from Twitter.