Whats better?

He's a bulls**t merchant and is clearly trying to do it to get a reaction. He's no intention of ever playing a game with anyone on here and is happy in his own little fantasy world down the range believing that aged 40+ he's got so much ability to swing so fast and consistently that he'll be single figures as he only needs to hit short irons in.

What I'm lacking in ability I hope to be able to make up with time. One of the advantages of being semi-retired. ;)
 
What I'm lacking in ability I hope to be able to make up with time. One of the advantages of being semi-retired. ;)

No excuse for not being able to find the time for a game. It's the only way you'll get a benchmark against which to measure your progress and to prove to this doubter at least that you're not on some huge mickey take.
 
Watching Bubba Watson in the final round at Bay Hill got me thinking.

What's better??

Consistantly hitting 300+ off the tee with a mediocre/poor short game.

or

Hitting 250ish off the tee with an amazing/good short game.

What are your opinions?

Ask Bubba Watson and Brian Gay!

They are the two perfect examples for your question.

In driving distance:
Bubba Watson is ranked no. 1/189 (averging 310 per drive)
Brian Gay no 186/189 (avg 268 yds per drive)

In scrambling:
Bubba Watson ranked 160/189
Brain Gay ranked 3/189

In "Total Putting":
Bubba Watson ranked: 163/191
Brian Gay ranked 7/191

and whos won done better this season?

Fedex Cup points:
Bubba Watson is ranked 6th
Brain Gay is ranked 28th

Scoring Average:
Bubba Watson is ranked 88th
Brian Gay is ranked 6th

Money Won:
Bubba Watson 6th with $1,716,017
Brain Gay 39th with $573,057

So in conclusion I'd be happy to be either tbh...

actually Ill be Bubba for the extra cash and cos GIRLS LIKE GUYS WHO HIT THE LONG BALL
 
I would say that most people would, of course, love extra distance. To say a straight drive of 240 is just as good as a straight drive of 280 is daft.

I don't know why people are making the assumption that shorter drives = better short games.

People not bothered about getting extra distance may well because they can't be bothered training (weights, core, flexibility etc)...which is fair enough. You can get a better swing and short game through playing the game, which is what most people signed up for. Once your swing is as good as it's going to be you need to start training off the course to get more distance...I can see why the average golfer can't be arsed with this.

But at the end of the day, the courses that we play regularly can be conquered with average distance and a good short game.
 
Apart from the last few posts, it seems that everyone has forgotten the original question since one guy who everybody likes to beat up on gave his opinion.

Here's the original question, posted by Gareth.

What's better??

Consistantly hitting 300+ off the tee with a mediocre/poor short game.

or

Hitting 250ish off the tee with an amazing/good short game.


My opinion:

I'm assuming that the 2 options above both result in the same scores for our mythical golfer, otherwise it would be a daft question because you'd just take the lower scores/lower handicap.

If that were the case, I'll be the longer hitter please :)

The reason being, I can improve my short game with lots of practice and become a better golfer, but if I were the shorter guy with the great short game then I've nowhere left to improve to because I don't think I can learn to hit the ball much further than I do now.
 
Apart from the last few posts, it seems that everyone has forgotten the original question since one guy who everybody likes to beat up on gave his opinion.

Here's the original question, posted by Gareth.

What's better??

Consistantly hitting 300+ off the tee with a mediocre/poor short game.

or

Hitting 250ish off the tee with an amazing/good short game.


My opinion:

I'm assuming that the 2 options above both result in the same scores for our mythical golfer, otherwise it would be a daft question because you'd just take the lower scores/lower handicap.

If that were the case, I'll be the longer hitter please :)

The reason being, I can improve my short game with lots of practice and become a better golfer, but if I were the shorter guy with the great short game then I've nowhere left to improve to because I don't think I can learn to hit the ball much further than I do now.


If i had to choose one or the other.

I'd take the 250 yards and amazing short game please..... :)


I can't remember the last time i played a Par 3 over 250 yards or Par 4 over 500 yards......... but if i did, i would be confident my amazing short game would get me by.... :)
 
I'd love to hit the ball further and put all par 4s and a few par 5s in two shot range (Timgolfy has a point to an extent) but I wonder how many shots I would save.

Today I drove the ball well (in the pouring rain!) but had eight shots of 30 yards or less to the hole none of which I got within 20 feet. Made good contact with all the pitch shots but my judgement of distance was woeful. By my reckoning a decent short game would have saved me at least six shots and with an excellent one who knows? So my 84 could have easily been a 78.

For me it's got to be the razor sharp short game.
 
I am a short hitter anyway, and have a tendency to be wayward at times as well so I rely on my short game to transform my scores. As this part of the game has gone into meltdown it is no surprise my scoring in competitions has suffered. However once I crack it and work on the distance control and correct technique I'm certain (nay adamant) that I'll get a cut soon and that the handicap will begin to drop again and prove that short off the tee and a solid short game IS the way.
 
Gareth

Can you just explain what you meant for me please?

Did you mean...

Which would you rather be if both led to the same scores,

OR

Which do you think would shoot the lowest scores.

:D

Ta :)
 
For me, while there's something great about flushing one off the tee to max distance for my swing/ability, I'd love to be able to scramble pars.

So I'd prefer a great short game and a 250 drive.

I've shot an 83 (at the time off 20) using the driver on only 5 holes, so it's not always about length off the tee.
 
It totally depends on the course I'm playing. If it's 7400 yards, with 250 carry to the fairway, short isn't going to work.

If it's 6500 yards, then I'd take the 250 off the tee, and hot short game.

When do I get to make this choice anyway, and why does a long hitter have to have a shonky short game, and why does a short hitter automatically get a great short game?

Can I have both?
 
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