HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Careful what you wish for. Might even be some youtube videos soon too
Angry golfers who won't practice or take lessons...
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Springveldt
Well-known member
While most amateurs are absolutely terrible from them and should be avoiding them at all costs. Problem is that they hear the commentators saying "the bunker is a good place to miss" so they think the same when in reality they are better being in 2 foot high rough than a bunker.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
A lot of people are time-poor though. It might be the case that one round a week and no range time is all they can manage. In which case there's probably little point in having the lesson, unless it can produce a quick-fix. I'll admit that I'm close to this myself, although I can just about squeeze a range session into the week as well - but when I had my lesson in Jan, and after a month I was still playing horribly, I just didn't have the patience to endure horrible golf for that long. So I tried to revert back to something that worked to some degree. Of course people always say that it takes time and work after a lesson to see improvement, but it's tough to keep persevering with something when you're not enjoying your golf at all and it's your one outlet per week.
SteveW86
Head Pro
Would be good to see some more lesson videos. The one you had with Paul Foston was great, was nice to see a coach giving such clear instructions that were easy to follow
Orikoru
Tour Winner
My 12 handicap mate is an anomaly here. He's fantastic from bunkers but can't chip to save his life, so he'd much rather be in a bunker. I think because his chipping yip is duffing it, but in a bunker you're essentially fatting it on purpose so he swings freely without fear.
I've been on this forum for nearly 15 years now Homer, and you have been telling us about your problems and lessons continuously over all this time and yet, you still seem to be in the same place now as you were then. Are you sure that lessons are right for you mate?
They are for my bank balance - ker-ching
Ooooh goody - better look my best.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I've been on this forum for nearly 15 years now Homer, and you have been telling us about your problems and lessons continuously over all this time and yet, you still seem to be in the same place now as you were then. Are you sure that lessons are right for you mate?
The biggest marker for improvement in the game is someone’s Handicap
We have seen someone have multiple lessons both technical and mental and the HC stays the same
Now it could be that lessons have kept someone at a level as opposed to improving
Or lessons are hindering any improvements
We see some take lessons and then ignore it and blame the lessons , some just don’t suit , and some may just not get better
There will always be the quest for the Eureka moment ( even think that’s a new swing method )
Springveldt
Well-known member
The bit in bold is really the important part. Even if you are getting lessons you need to devote time to getting better as well and most family men/woman don't have that time. If I take a lesson it's not for a long term fix, it's because I've screwed something up in my swing and getting an experienced set of eyes on it to get me back to hitting the ball is usually all I'm after. I don't have the time to try and change my swing path/rotate more through the ball/change wrist angles etc that can be long term changes that you really need to engrain. I'm just looking for something that gets me keeping the ball on the planet again.
Natural ability also has a big part to play, some people are just better at both hand to eye co-ordination and body sequencing and find the game easier than others. It's like when you are at school and some kids just get maths straight away as they are good with numbers while others struggle or some kids can just control a football much better than others without really trying.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Think their bunkers are a bit better than your average UK course.
PM me my friend - happy to help change your opinion.
Besides having a new pool put in at my place in Spain so the extra wonga will help.
clubchamp98
Journeyman Pro
Yes he would imo be + golfer.He is missing a huge chunk of what’s available to him course wise. If he is off scratch and can’t play out of bunkers, I can only imagine he would be + some if he could.
Often times (if you’re a competent bunker player) the bunker is a great miss, if the rough is up or there’s water at the other side of the green the bunker is a great miss, strategically it must be hard approaching a green with water left and sand right contemplating the water as the safe side to miss
We had a holiday in Florida it was his worst nightmare there’s a few big ones on them courses
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Summed it up perfectly
Every time I have a little bit of a slump or think maybe I could do with some extra yards I always think is it worth having a lesson
Then will just see something from a blog or vid and try and see what happens
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Deleted member 29109
Guest
If there is something fundamentally wrong then a single lesson may be able to fix it. But, even something like a grip change can take time to get used to and also have an impact somewhere else in the swing.
I firmly believe most mid handicap players would get more benefit from a playing lesson than a technical swing lesson.
Doon frae Troon
Ryder Cup Winner
Trouble is.........there is practice and practice.
I watched a couple of brilliant young 15 year olds practice their chipping.
30 yards from the flag, every shot teed up on a good lie...hit ...next to the pin... and repeat
Half an hour later they were still doing the same thing from the same length so I walked down and started scattering their balls all over the place.
Put some in divots, bare lies, upslopes, downslopes, stood on a few, some poached eggs in the bunker some on the footpath etc.
A more advanced sort of 'practice'.
I watched a couple of brilliant young 15 year olds practice their chipping.
30 yards from the flag, every shot teed up on a good lie...hit ...next to the pin... and repeat
Half an hour later they were still doing the same thing from the same length so I walked down and started scattering their balls all over the place.
Put some in divots, bare lies, upslopes, downslopes, stood on a few, some poached eggs in the bunker some on the footpath etc.
A more advanced sort of 'practice'.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Same issue with pumping balls down the driving range really. If your problem is fatting it, the driving range isn't going to help you much, because the mats mask it completely.
