What options do I have?

[G1BB0]

are clubs supposed to cut to double bogey every medal comp for handicap purposes?

think I may have been done on a couple of occasions if thats the case

*edit* just looked at my scores and from 3 rounds I would have had 5 under and 6 under twice if dropped to doubles for h.c purposes!!!!

 

[chrisd]

are clubs supposed to cut to double bogey every medal comp for handicap purposes?

think I may have been done on a couple of occasions if thats the case

*edit* just looked at my scores and from 3 rounds I would have had 5 under and 6 under twice if dropped to doubles for h.c purposes!!!!

I think that the stableford adjusted scores would be 3 over par on a hole where the player gets a shot.

I assume that the thinking is that if a player shoots one or two bad holes on a round, most of the rest of the competitors would still deem him to be ,say, a 12 handicapper in general terms and his handicap is supposed to reflect his "general play" and as the CONGU book says, using the nett stableford system allows handicaps to "reflect his potential ability"



Chris

 

[G1BB0]

I was referring to strokeplay

ahh so if I score a 9 on a par 4 that I get 2 shots on it would go down to an 8 so effectively a net double?

soz for going off topic btw

 

[Jonny]

The systems that work these things out are rarely wrong as they have to be approved by CONGU.

Your handicap will be right.

 

[G1BB0]

I guess I should just play better

cheers gents

 

[chrisd]

I was referring to strokeplay

ahh so if I score a 9 on a par 4 that I get 2 shots on it would go down to an 8 so effectively a net double?

soz for going off topic btw

Thats it, spot on Gibbo. Obviously for handicapping only. In a stroke play comp it would still be a 9 and in a stableford comp = nil points!

I remember a low handicapper at my club saying that he had done a 10 (I think) on one hole, off 6 handicap and by the end finished level par nett and got a handicap cut because the 10 became a 6 on adjustment.


Chris

 

[Jonny]

G1bbo... a quick question. Why is the highest loft in your bag a 52? Or is that a bit of an error in your signature?

 

[JezzE]

Again I understand where your coming from but in essence its like saying you did 7/8ths of your job brilliantly and made a total an utter backside of that bit, I'll still pay you.

I have been in the situation where it has helped me, a 9 at a par 3 where I was 5 off the tee, still made buffer but I feel that is wrong and gives a false impression of my handicap as I certainly didn't play to my handicap. I deserved point 1 for having a 9!

Or look at it another way, I'm up too 6. Buffer is now 2 shots for me, CSS for the day is 70. I can have the average round of 12 pars, 2 birdies then throw in 4 horror hols of 10, 7, 8 and an 11.

I could be 20 over par and not go up!!! Mental.

I do understand what you're saying, and in purist's terms, yes you're right - that's what you shot, so up 0.1 for you. But I think it was introduced with protection in mind - not just in terms of the matchplay scenario I suggested, but also to guard against disreputable chaps playing great golf but throwing in a little 9 or 10 just to ensure they don't get cut prior to a big competition. I've met very few of these types in my 28 years playing, but, I'm told they do exist!

Our games sound very similar this year by the way - up from 5 to 6; more likely to hit the green with a 5-iron than a wedge. What else? Perhaps we'll find out at Machrihanish next year - will get back to you asap on that, but a little manic for the next few days with deadlines and time out

 

[G1BB0]

jonny, just changing my bag as moving from Titleist 775cb irons, odyssey 2 ball belly and 54/60 deg vokey's, bought nike sv 52 & 58 degree but they ended up left handed hence short in the wedge front

sourced a 52 deg sv & got a spare sand wedge I am going to use until I get a new set of wedges

 

[Jonny]

ah... makes sense. Remember that scoring is done with the bottom of the club yardages. And while people say it's 100 yards and in I don't think it is.

You score from 30 yards and in. Get up and down most of the time from there and you will return good numbers.

 

[G1BB0]

aye short game is good its the 4 or 5 hacks to get within that range that cost me (and putting hence dropping the belly as alignment was good but distance control was cack)

 

[Jonny]

Distance control with putting is a common complaint.

Try this. When taking a few practice strokes don't look at the putter or the ground. Look at the hole. Keep the putter moving smoothly while you look at the hole and "feel" the strength of the stroke. Then move over the ball and make that same smooth stroke.

Worked wonders for me.

 

[chrisd]

I do understand what you're saying, and in purist's terms, yes you're right - that's what you shot, so up 0.1 for you. But I think it was introduced with protection in mind - not just in terms of the matchplay scenario I suggested, but also to guard against disreputable chaps playing great golf but throwing in a little 9 or 10 just to ensure they don't get cut prior to a big competition. I've met very few of these types in my 28 years playing, but, I'm told they do exist!

Crikey! to think that I have just had the mother and father of a row with my club captain over a .1 addition that I wanted removing so that I stayed at 11 and not up to 12 handicap for the winter!! I had sound reason under CONGU for the cancellation of the .1 and the arse made me wait 3 weeks for it.


Chris

 

[rosecott]

Makes no difference really under the stupid new rules which bring it down to a double bogie anyway if this was a strokeplay competition.

New rules?

The Stableford adjustment was certainly in force in 2001 and maybe even earlier.