What club to take?

[pokerjoke]

I always find it interesting to read peoples distances on threads,and im
not surprised in these hard ground conditions there are some massive distances
banded around.
But my question is this.
Lets say a second shot is over water,the green is firm but will take a high ball,but not a flat
ball.
The pin is 6 yards on with 10 yards behind.
The shot is 220 to carry the water.
What club would you use.
Does anyone really know there exact distance of carry with each club,because that surely
is the crux of it.
I really do know my carry distances for my wedges and irons.
But when I get to my rescues and woods,there are so many variables.
So is it a matter of making sure it gets over and excepting the outcome,or do
you really know your carry distances with longer clubs.
As im writing this im really thinking I should get to a range or field and find out
my carry distances for woods and rescues.

My question really is,what club would you hit 220 in normal conditions to carry the water.
Do you really know your yardages for your woods,or is it just pot luck.
It really is quite easy to get your distances correct with your wedges and irons,however
not so easy with your woods and drivers.
Having a window of 220-250 with a 3 wood depending on how you hit it really is pot
luck.
Imagine if you caught the 250 shot when you only needed 220,all sorts of problems could occur.

 

[jimbob.someroo]

Playing with Duncan and OddSocks in the Surrey Golf Tour, I actually played this shot on their stroke 1 hole for an eagle and 5 points :whoo:

http://www.reigatehillgolfclub.co.uk/Clients/54/scorecard/images/h-14.jpg

Hit a poor drive into the rough on the right and hit a bit high cut with a 6 iron from behind a tree over the water and sunk the putt. Guy who I beat into second place was in our group and hit a longer iron from middle of the fairway. He couldn't hold the green and rolled into the back bunker for a 5.

Like I said earlier, entirely dependent on situation but if you've got room to play with over the back, the carry isn't the issue. I'd find it easier getting up and down from just over a green than I would from 100 yards, the majority of the time.

 

[garyinderry]

at 220, its would either be a long par 4 which I would have a shot on or a par 5. either way its still a long way to hit a small target.


even without water, if there is lots of pot bunkers or bushes where I could lose a ball I would still 9/10 lay up. I am a little wild with the longer clubs so id take my chances laying up. if its a par 5, still a chance of a bird and simple par. if its par 4, bogey and worst and move on to easier holes.


course management in play here. pick your fights. this isn't one of them chaps !

 

[Qwerty]

Id go 9 iron - 140ish yards then SW 95ish yards then take it from there.

To answer the main question though, I've a 4wood in the bag and I can't carry 220yrds with it. Anyone that can pull off such a shot is a much better player than me.

Id hazard a guess that there would be a couple off here that could pull off such a shot mid medal, Id be interested to know who'd take it on and be confident of making the carry when the pressure is on...

Who's got the Minerals?? This should Be a piece of cake for all the Bubbas on here.

 

[brendy]

Play the conditions Stevie, play the conditions!

I will add Brendy to that list, the man hits a mahoosive ball and as he says, depending on the lie, wind and other factors it is probably a 3 iron for him

But he also hits driver on 158 yard par 3s :mmm:

 

[smange]

Play the conditions Stevie, play the conditions!

You mean play to your strengths or in your case play to avoid your weaknesses

 

[CMAC]

Swinger is one that comes to mind, I've heard Pieman is also very long. Couple of other low handicappers on here like Robobum might be able to pull it off. Doubt many others could.

ahem *cough* *cough*....

19* hybrid or high cut 4 wood will gaurantee that I'm...................








in the water...............



....however, I Barns Wallis'd it onto the green and sunk the putt for birdie..........next hole

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

ahem *cough* *cough*....

19* hybrid or high cut 4 wood will gaurantee that I'm...................








in the water...............



....however, I Barns Wallis'd it onto the green and sunk the putt for birdie..........next hole

Good luck with that shot

If anyone can pull it off, I'm sure you are that man

 

[harpo_72]

If its 220 yards left on a par 4 a) you tee shot has gone nowhere useful, you can't reach, b) your tee shot has lost distance into the wind, you can't reach c) you pushed or pulled offline from the tee ( a favoured lie), your kidding yourself you can't reach. If its a par 5 then take your 3 shots to the green get into you accurate club ( we all have a favourite , use it) and make birdie or worse a par, this is not an eagle hole unless your down wind and cut the yardage to a high lofted iron, but that won't stop downwind on a proper green!

 

[Allanxyz]

My question really is,what club would you hit 220 in normal conditions to carry the water.
Do you really know your yardages for your woods,or is it just pot luck.
It really is quite easy to get your distances correct with your wedges and irons,however
not so easy with your woods and drivers.
Having a window of 220-250 with a 3 wood depending on how you hit it really is pot
luck.
Imagine if you caught the 250 shot when you only needed 220,all sorts of problems could occur.

I've not much clue how far my 3 wood goes...it would be mostly guesswork... The strike I get (especially of the deck) isn't as consistent as my irons so as you say it is more pot-luck... but I'm guessing it's also similar for the pros to a certain extent (off the deck at least)...

Lots of people know that their 3 wood/4iron/hybrid aren't the most consistent so either are prepared to take that risk with distance/direction not being spot on or they leave the risk out and take an iron where the margin of error is quite not so large.

So I would say, it's nice to know how far you hit it on a good day... but it's very hard to know how you will hit it every time to any degree of certainty...unless you are really really good with your woods of the deck. When you have the choice to hit it you are aware that you could be a long way off your best quite a lot... so don't use it to hit over water unless the situation dictates you need to (1 down with one to play...opponent already on the green in two)

 

[brendy]

*sniff...that too.


:ears:

You mean play to your strengths or in your case play to avoid your weaknesses

 

[Karl102]

7 iron and stop it next to the pin

Get that one in before someone else

Easy 8 or hard 9 iron for me....

 

[Birchy]

Id go 9 iron - 140ish yards then SW 95ish yards then take it from there.

To answer the main question though, I've a 4wood in the bag and I can't carry 220yrds with it. Anyone that can pull off such a shot is a much better player than me.

Id hazard a guess that there would be a couple off here that could pull off such a shot mid medal, Id be interested to know who'd take it on and be confident of making the carry when the pressure is on...

Who's got the Minerals?? This should Be a piece of cake for all the Bubbas on here.

Theres a guy who plays in the OOM who could pull this shot off with an iron imo . Not saying it would be easy but he is deffo capable :thup:

 

[Matty]

In the real world I'd be laying up as I would be looking at 3w or drive to carry 220 yards and would have very little change of ensuring I'd carry the water and stop the ball reasonably.

If we are talking in the unit of "Forum Yards" then it's a 3/4 pitching wedge!! :lol:

 

[Fader]

In the real world I'd be laying up as I would be looking at 3w or drive to carry 220 yards and would have very little change of ensuring I'd carry the water and stop the ball reasonably.

If we are talking in the unit of "Forum Yards" then it's a 3/4 pitching wedge!! :lol:

No way forum yardages thats to much club, at most a GW

 

[rosecott]

If the lie was good I would definitely have a go. I hit the ball far enough to consider as little as a 6 iron in the right conditions but would probably opt for a 5 iron.

I know two South Africans who could do it. One is a member of my club and plays off 3, and the other is a forum member. If I had to place a bet on one of them doing it, I refuse to say which one it would be.

 

[JT77]

220 carry with no room to stop the ball? If I needed to get on the green from there best chance would be my hybrid, 19 deg. No chance of stopping my 3 wood. Think I'd go for it if it was a one off round though, worst case is taking a drop a playing four from in front of the water not 3

 

[DAVEYBOY]

Lay up, its not worth the risk.

 

[Lump]

Its only a round of golf. I'd go for it with my 3 iron. 220 is right on the limit of a sweetly struck iron. As long as it held the green I'd consider it a win, I'd even be happy to miss the green right/left and leave a chip & putt

 

[Foxholer]

I always find it interesting to read peoples distances on threads,and im
not surprised in these hard ground conditions there are some massive distances
banded around.
But my question is this.
Lets say a second shot is over water,the green is firm but will take a high ball,but not a flat
ball.
The pin is 6 yards on with 10 yards behind.
The shot is 220 to carry the water.
What club would you use.
Does anyone really know there exact distance of carry with each club,because that surely
is the crux of it.
I really do know my carry distances for my wedges and irons.
But when I get to my rescues and woods,there are so many variables.
So is it a matter of making sure it gets over and excepting the outcome,or do
you really know your carry distances with longer clubs.
As im writing this im really thinking I should get to a range or field and find out
my carry distances for woods and rescues.

I know the distances - though normally unimportant as it's total distance I'm after, except on a couple of Par 3s.

But none of them would reach so I'd be laying up!

No water and hard fairways and it would have been a big 17* or a 3-wood - depending on whether green raised or not. Couple of each on Sunday.