Was I right , Or a nosey so and so ?

[jammydodger]

Played in a medal on Saturday and our 1st runs opposite parallel to our 2nd. I was waiting by the 2nd green for my oppos to play when I turned to watch a bloke play his 2nd shot at the 1st.

His ball was behind a staked tree and as I watched he went up to it , picked it up and walked back looking at the green until he then dropped it about 5 paces away. Stunned. I thought it best to check with him tht he was playing in the comp to which he said yes.

I then said I think you've made a mistake with your free drop and havnt done it correctly. He said 'whats the problem i've got 2 club lengths'. I started to explain about finding nearest point of relief but could tell it was falling on deaf ears so walked off to carry on my round.

When I got in I forgot about it til the next day , when I got to the club to find out he'd come 2nd in div 2 (16-28 h/c). It prompted me to go thte pro shop and report the illegal drop. After all he's done the 3rd and 4th places out of positions and money that were rightfully theirs.

Would you have done the same or was I being a bit nosey/over the top etc etc ??

ps the pro said he would have to have a word with the blokes playing partner.

 

[One Planer]

I think you've done the right thing in reporting it. I would have told him there and then that if he didn't play within the rules of the game you would report him, especially as there are prizes/money involved.

However his playing partener should really be pulling him up about it.

 

[chris661]

However his playing partener should really be pulling him up about it.

Maybe he never knew?

IMO you have done the right thing at least he will learn from it hopefully

 

[Oddsocks]

i can see a new book coming onto the market.

How to make friends, by J. Dodger

on a serius note people learn from their mistakes, maybe understanding the rules better now will save him a DQ from a bigger comp in the future. I was lucky enough to have 2 senior people in my group sunday who ere "by the book golfers", there was no such thing as a grey area, it was black or white. which was bloody handy given it was a quarter finals knock out match.

 

[Macster]

You've certainly done the right thing, its admirable to even challenge someone about it, so well done.

 

[Philm]

you should have explained, for example im not sure what he done wrong? can someone explain the nearest point of relief versus 2club lengths rule>?

thanks

Phil

 

[marinemac]

you did right all said and done it was a competition

 

[bladeplayer]

You were 100% right JD to report it.. his playing partners should have noticed it aswell tho .. i thought it was one club lenght from nearest point of relief not nearer the hole , so you have helped me too , having a word with the blokes playing partner isnt much good, he needs to talk directly to the bloke, coz if he didnt see the drop fair enough it not his fault , but if he saw the drop & signed the card , thats as bad as the incorrect drop

 

[colint]

Did the right thing, tried to point it out to him first which was the decent thing to do

 

[Philm]

so whats the rule?

Phil

 

[chrisd]

Did the right thing, tried to point it out to him first which was the decent thing to do

I agree 100%



Chris

 

[Deleted member 1147]

What is the result of your disclosure to the pro?
Will he be DQ'd or just advised of the rules?
I only ask as in reality you have no physical proof, it's just your word against his. Not like with Harrington or Villegas where they had TV evidence.

 

[Doh]

It's usually a local rule.

If your stance or swing is impeded by a staked tree you can take a drop of one club lenght from the nearest point of relief not nearer the hole.

You can not take a drop if your line of sight is impeded.

 

[DCB]

Op - It was the rigght thing to do. You challenged him mand he didn't take it into account. It's up to the committee to deal with it now.

Philm, A free drop from a staked tree is one clublenght from the hnearest point of relief.

A penalty drop would be within two club lenghts of the original ball position. Or one of the other two options for an unplayable ball

 

[Aztecs27]

And what defines the "nearest point of relief"?

(Sorry, it's been a while. I'm still re-swotting on the in's and out's of the rules!)

 

[Doh]

The nearest point of relief is the nearest point to the spot you are on where there is no interferance.

I believe.

 

[rickg]

And what defines the "nearest point of relief"?

The "nearest point of relief" is the reference point for taking relief without penalty from interference by an immovable obstruction (Rule 24-2), an abnormal ground condition (Rule 25-1) or a wrong putting green (Rule 25-3).

It is the point on the course nearest to where the ball lies:
(i) that is not nearer the hole, and
(ii) where, if the ball were so positioned, no interference by the condition from which relief is sought would exist for the stroke the player would have made from the original position if the condition were not there.

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

 

[Philm]

thanks for clearing that up fellas.

Phil

 

[robbest3offthetee]

Note: In order to determine the nearest point of relief accurately, the player should use the club with which he would have made his next stroke if the condition were not there to simulate the address position, direction of play and swing for such a stroke.

[/QUOTE] How many times do you see this enforced though,you see players measuring 2 club lengths with there driver(longest club) ,then play there next shot with a different club??

 

[Whereditgo]

Couldn't he just have started the round again? after all he clearly wasn't in the right frame of mind!