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Was he wrong??

Imurg

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So was Faldo wrong to load the bottom end of the draw with our better players?

According to all the commentators the middle games are always the ones that settle the match. Should Westwood,Harrington,Poulter and Mcdowell in the middle?

I think he probably should have but in all honesty I think the USA have played the better golf over the 3 days and probably deserve to win.

We havn't been helped by the likes of Garcia who has done nothing and Westwood who looks like he's been missing his mate Clarke. Stenson has been failey quiet too. The plus points are that Poulter has played well as has Casey, especially today. Wilson and Hansen have done their bit too. Rose and Karlsson have been excellent as well.

Should we change theselection system to mirror that of the USA? $ from the world list, 4 from the Euro list and then 4 picks??

It would allow form players to be picked instead of people who qualify early and then lose form.
 

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I think the draw was loaded wrong by Faldo but thats only my opinion and I also don't think it wouldve actually made much difference in the end.

I have to say though, I was one in the Clarke camp when it came to Poulters pick but he has been one of, if not our best player and has played fantastic golf. Fully justified his inclusion by some margin.

Ah well, early night it is!
 

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Both teams played superb golf,they had there 13th man with them which did spoil things but these guys should be able to handle that no worries

Well done usa i say
 

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Not sure you can say for certainty. If we had knicked a couple of points further up the matches at the bottom would have been crucial and you wouldn't want someone like Wilson trying to win to retain the match as a rookie (even though he played ok). I think there had to be some protection at the bottom of the draw. Not sure Sergio was the ideal player to have led though.
 

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Listened to 5-live on my way to play this morning. I heard arguments both ways. The argument for loading it as Faldo did was that he had garcia, casey there to grab early points, then when it came down to wire, as most thought it would, he had his big guns to mop up.

however this relied on his front runners playing well and the US not draining putts from all angles - what was Weekly - 28 for the front 9?
 

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Considering Harrington lost against a very weak player how could Faldo be accused of bottom loading. Harrington was off his game, but at least he kept his head where Garcia did not & Faldo should have had those two swapped round, as who better than Harringtons level head even with being off form, might have been able to deal with the young upstart in A.Kim.

When I saw the picks for the final day I had the win lose or draw results about spot on & predicted the wins for Europe spot on at work before I left.

TBH there was a very balanced spread of talant & those on form. Infact if Faldo really had bottom loaded or even top loaded then maybe or maybe not, been different.

Well at least its over for another 2 years & we can look farward to winning back OUR trophy in Wales...rofl.
 

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I had heard that. Is it because he wanted to anchor the team, or because he knew he was out of sorts, and thought it would be over before his match counted?

Karlsson should have played Kim. Everyone knew zinger would put him out first. Should have put an emotional retard up against him, so nothing for Kim to bounce off. Stenson would have been ok too.
 
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Terrible Ryder Cup from start to finish by Faldo even his pairings were questionable.

Karlsson and Stenson were a stick on from the off yet only got one match together and they were on fire together. Westwood and Hansen were clearly not gelling yet they got pitched together again.

In my opinion the only correct pairing he got was the Rose Poulter combination.

The final days order was terrible. Loading the rear of the team when early points were a must was a stupid decision in my opinion. IF and I appreciate its a big IF we got some early momentium it would have silenced the USA cries and the BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cries which would have given the Europeans hope.

I also thought that the singles also highlighted the difference in depth between both tours. I really like Jiminez and think hes a smashing bloke but never in a million years was he going to beat the Octopus swing. Jiminez is not long enough or consistant enough to live at that level.

Maybe we should be looking at a top 6 with six picks.
 

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Craw, I agree with most of what you've said however Jiminez is third in the order of merit isnt he?

I also think Jimenez warranted a place, i just dont think he had a good weekend as many europeans didn't.

I'm quiet interested to see what the yanks do about the woods situation. they looked much more of a team without him but you cant drop the best player in the world..... can you? surely not. Maybe a pointless debate as i'm sure woods will be top or close to the top of the order of merit.
 

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Interesting point re Woods. No way they will be able to drop him but I'm not sure they will be queueing up to partner him.

As a left field suggestion why not got he whole way and get rid of automatic picks and just let the captains pick their own twelve. Would make for some intersting teams
 
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Exactly, I think it highlights the lack of strength and depth of the European tour compaired to the US Tour.

I would have put my mortgage 5 times over on Furyk beating Jiminez.
 

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Not a bad idea homer but then you may find that the european captains pick mainly home based players. Ie. Spanish captain picking spanish players, faldo picking english players etc... maybe not giving everyone a fair crack of the whip.

I know this may not be the case but I'm sure faldo would have picked a load of english players had he had the chance.
 

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Tend to disagree. I think any "decent" captain would realise the general strength in depth across the European spectrum (Scandinevian, Irish - McIlroy in years to come?, English, plus the likes of Kaymer et al and pick a team based on merit and not nationality
 

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I hope you're right homer!

I think a change in the picks would be good but not quiet sure if abandoning the order of merit all together is a good idea.
 
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