VVD ................... well done, nice touch.

[Kellfire]

If someone I know suffers a bereavement, and I don't know the person who died, it's safe to say that my words are for the living person who I would feel for, especially knowing what they are going through as, like most people, I've been there !

I know what it’s like to lose someone close but I personally would get no comfort from a stranger offering me a few words. I would from a friend or even a colleague who can truly see my pain and would actually feel empathy or sympathy towards my situation.

 

[Kellfire]

Kellfire, I'm afraid you haven't done yourself any favours in this thread

There will be so many regular posters who share my skepticism but aren’t voicing it. And that’s sad but they’re clearly scared to face the unwarranted backlash to not conforming with the “goody goody” nature which seems to be the wont of many.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I’d know he was a victim of societal pressures that suggest making false offers of sentiment are a good thing.

In this I might tend to agree with you. These days there seems to be a lot of expectations set in respect of public expressions of grief through social media and other media channels - whether known or not. Much of that I find inauthentic and often seems more about the person making the expression of grief (in our 'look at me' world) than the subject of the grief.

 

[Kellfire]

In this I might tend to agree with you. These days there seems to be a lot of expectations set in respect of public expressions of grief through social media and other media channels - whether known or not. Much of that I find inauthentic and often seems more about the person making the expression of grief (in our 'look at me' world) than the subject of the grief.

We live in a world where people are taught that being inauthentic is “nice” and it’s expected but that’s such a pathetic way to live.

I sneezed in the office once and someone said “bless you” to me.

After a few seconds they told me off for not saying thank you to them! I told him not to say “bless you” to me again then. Problem solved.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

There will be so many regular posters who share my skepticism but aren’t voicing it. And that’s sad but they’re clearly scared to face the unwarranted backlash to not conforming with the “goody goody” nature which seems to be the wont of many.

I'm not so sure about that but you are entitled to your opinion.

 

[garyinderry]

The whole thing was a non event.

 

[Kellfire]

I'm not so sure about that but you are entitled to your opinion.

You might disagree with me but is what I’m saying really that out there an opinion? No of course not.

In a forum with so many people we’ll have all sorts of views. There’ll be racists, sexists, homophobes etc but they wouldn’t dare share those aspects of their personality.

So it goes on a more moderate level. If someone states an opinion but the vocal majority disagree, often people won’t dare state their agreement because they don’t want a backlash. That’s the internet.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

You might disagree with me but is what I’m saying really that out there an opinion? No of course not.

In a forum with so many people we’ll have all sorts of views. There’ll be racists, sexists, homophobes etc but they wouldn’t dare share those aspects of their personality.

So it goes on a more moderate level. If someone states an opinion but the vocal majority disagree, often people won’t dare state their agreement because they don’t want a backlash. That’s the internet.

Are you sponsored by JCB?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

We live in a world where people are taught that being inauthentic is “nice” and it’s expected but that’s such a pathetic way to love.

I sneezed in the office once and someone said “bless you” to me.

After a few seconds they told me off for not saying thank you to them! I told him not to say “bless you” to me again then. Problem solved.

Well that is daft - or I hope it was said to you in jest...

 

[Kellfire]

Well that is daft - or I hope it was said to you in jest...

He was being deadly serious and made a point of making sure other people heard him say it to me.

 

[robinthehood]

Give the man a break. He's entitled to his opinion, but sadly the forum has nothing better than to wheel out the troll accusation.

 

[chrisd]

Don’t worry I won’t report your personal insult. x

Trust me, nothing you say, or do, will ever worry me

 

[Blue in Munich]

If I knew the person and we had a good relationship, I’d believe their sincerity.

If one of the guys I play six aside against on a Monday night offered me condolences for my mum dying I’d know he didn’t actually care.

I think it’s incredibly naive and borderline immature to think that every apparent act of kindness is altruistic.

So do explain how commenting on this act of kindness means that I think every act of kindness is altruistic?

 

[robinthehood]

Don’t worry I won’t report your personal insult. x

Sadly because of the way this forum works, you'll end being the one with an infraction or whatever it's called

 

[Tashyboy]

For somebody who buried their dad today I was thankful of every message I received and I had a fair few I have no doubt at all that VVD was showing compassion to somebody who was suffering. If people want to try and score points then good luck to you. Believe me today sucked and I would not wish it on my worst enemy. If you are a BLUE red pink or green respect others as to lose your nearest hurts

Sometimes I read threads on here and shake my head. Sometimes I read threads and one post sums it all up and hits the nail firmly on the head, and the topic should be locked. This is one such post.

Just wish it was under better circumstances. Thoughts with you AD

 

[Blue in Munich]

It’s because he picked such a public, televised moment to do anything. He could’ve done it in private. But he chose not to do that.

How do you know this to be fact?

 

[Blue in Munich]

One other point, how would VVD have known that the tv cameras would be on him at that particular few seconds when shook hands with the ref ??

Because he staged it Chris, obviously.

 

[chrisd]

Sadly because of the way this forum works, you'll end being the one with an infraction or whatever it's called

So you do care for other people?

 

[Blue in Munich]

I very much doubt he “picked” anything - it just happened , it was a momentary reaction when shaking his hand and then seeing him upset. I suspect you would be posted something if he just walked away from him.

VVD didn’t “choose” to do anything - he showed a natural human reaction of compassion to someone who had just lost a parent - it’s called being human and having emotions

All here in the video

If you really think that’s staged and anything more than a human momentary reaction then the conclusions about you ring true

I've just watched it Phil; the hug from VVD is a reaction to something said by the referee. So obviously, not only was it staged but the referee was in on it, the utter cad.

Sometimes I despair...

 

[chrisd]

Because he staged it Chris, obviously.

Of course, how could i be so stupid?