Using a mat to gain an advantage.

[upsidedown]

But you do for 4 s& 5s?

Yes,but only 7 holes ,but only very rarely use them now under the new Course Manger

 

[upsidedown]

As soon as conditions allow ,around April the LR will be lifted

 

[Colin L]

What's the difference playing off a permanent or temporary large artificial piece of turf that is a Winter tee and an artificial turf like a fairway mat ?
Both offer up the same surface

Not much, I reckon, although the playing surfaces would not necessarily be the same. Whether by oversight or intention, the MLR is as it is. It's not just a matter of par 3s as you find par 4s where the long hitters play an iron .If the wish is that the club wants to allows acceptable scores and protect the teeing areas , it really needs to put down a temporary mat or use a bit of ground adjacent to the normal tee. It's not an issue at my own club as all of the shorter holes have a mat permanently in place and in any case the winter course is too short for acceptable scores. My own view is that given our climate, clubs should work on the principle that what matters is making winter golf possible and as enjoyable as can be while protecting the course. Better to accept that members cannot return scores for handicap than have the course closing more often than need be.

 

[rulefan]

Doesn't answer the question I asked ,what is the physical difference,there isn't one and playing devil's advocate both protect the tees do they not .

If we're not doing QR's what is the issue ?
Spurk themselves have a video where they show using a mat on a tee with a tee, do they need to update it ?

I couldn't find an example (in that video) using a mat in the teeing area.

But this one was made 2 years ago and should be updated if qualifiers are being played.

 

[upsidedown]

I couldn't find an example (in that video) using a mat in the teeing area.

But this one was made 2 years ago and should be updated if qualifiers are being played.

There's being pedantic and being pedantic, the Pro tees the ball up at 1.44 indicating if he's on a par 3 , yeah there's no clear evidence of markers but seriously

Not much, I reckon, although the playing surfaces would not necessarily be the same. Whether by oversight or intention, the MLR is as it is. It's not just a matter of par 3s as you find par 4s where the long hitters play an iron .If the wish is that the club wants to allows acceptable scores and protect the teeing areas , it really needs to put down a temporary mat or use a bit of ground adjacent to the normal tee. It's not an issue at my own club as all of the shorter holes have a mat permanently in place and in any case the winter course is too short for acceptable scores. My own view is that given our climate, clubs should work on the principle that what matters is making winter golf possible and as enjoyable as can be while protecting the course. Better to accept that members cannot return scores for handicap than have the course closing more often than need be.

Absolutely and we as a club have embraced using mats on the fairways to protect the course . Unfortunately the permanent winter tee mats ( sited under old HGK) , being on clay get trashed around the areas due to poor drainage and the new guy doesn't use them , although we encourage those who don't hit it so far too use them in the winter. Therefore we have LR to use fairway mats on tees when we are NQ's.
This is where "golf " shoots in self in the foot, £1500 for permanent winter tee and associated costs to measure winter course cards etc or £28 per mat which still gives opportunity to move around all the teeing area and spreading the wear.

 

[rulefan]

This is where "golf " shoots in self in the foot, £1500 for permanent winter tee and associated costs to measure winter course cards etc or £28 per mat which still gives opportunity to move around all the teeing area and spreading the wear.

Unless the permanent winter tees are in close proximity to the normal tees, the course would have to be remeasured for qualifiers to be played.
But as you say you don't play qualifiers it's all irrelevant anyway.