Undertaking...allow it?

Tashyboy said:
Because?
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Because this

Imurg said:
If drivers are so unaware of the consequences of middle lane hogging, they'll be even more blissfully unaware of anyone undertaking them until they're past.
I can almost guarantee that a significant number of drivers barely ever look in their left mirror..and that's the problem.
If you're going to allow undertaking, general awareness on the road has to increase dramatically.
It's not confined to motorways or D/Cs..
We have quite a few 30 limit roads with 2 lanes going each way.
A large proportion of drivers automatically go for the right hand lane, even when the left is completely free.
Coming to a roundabout on one of these roads, to turn left, many drift to the right hand lane to do it, even when there's nothing around...
And quite often the right hand lane is full, the left empty.
Go in the left hand lane and when you reach a roundabout or lights you cruise to the front of 10 cars...
It's illogical to drive anywhere but as far to the left as you can unless you're going right or overtaking.
And until they introduce mandatory retraining for drivers it will continue.
Therefore it will continue........
We shouldn't change the rules to compensate for those that break the rules.
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Bunkermagnet said:
I have been told by a few newly qualified drivers that they were taught by their instructor to sit in lanes 2 or 3 as that is safer than sitting in the inside lane. If that is the case.....what hope is there?
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Then they haven't been taught properly..
The middle is the least safe as you can have vehicles coming at you from both sides.
Technically, the outside is the safest as you can only get cars coming at you from one side.
Inside lane you have to deal with exits and entrys as well as cars from the right.
 
Bunkermagnet said:
I have no idea, and hope they are just remembering what they were taught incorrectly rather than instructed wrong.
I hope it’s just no more than clouded memory and a fear of hgv’s
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Unfortunately, you've hit a nail on the head there..
Many, many new drivers, within the first 6 months, have thrown half of what they were taught out of the window - either ignoring it or remembering it incorrectly..
 
SaintHacker said:
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Well I must be missing something, because that finishes by saying we shouldn't change the rules to compensate for those that break the rules. Well seeing as we have it in black and white that undertaking is not breaking the law but lane hogging is. It's not you best example of someone else's opinion to highlight. An opinion in which a agree with a hell of a lot of. One can only assume that you yourself are either a lane hogger or have never been held up by a hogger.

Now last year my daughter got pulled up by the Police ( unmarked car) for undertaking a car on the M1 in the outside lane doing 60 mph on a perfect evenings drive.
Said copper started giving her a lesson on driving and undertaking. Daughter asked if she was speeding. He said "no but you were undertaking". At that point daughter undid her coat, showed her warrant card to said Bobby and that she was herself a copper, and in no uncertain terms told him that she had flashed him 3 times to move over. He never did. She indicated and undertook him. At no point did she break the law. She told said copper who by now was posed off that he pulled over the wrong person.
 
Imurg said:
Unfortunately, you've hit a nail on the head there..
Many, many new drivers, within the first 6 months, have thrown half of what they were taught out of the window - either ignoring it or remembering it incorrectly..
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Many moons ago when I passed my test, the instructor would not let his pupils drive home as the were either knackered from the test or full of adrenalin and he did not want them driving. He jumped in the drivers seat and proceeded to drive like a knob for 7 miles. He told me that's how I will be driving inside a year. 😳
 
Yes allow undertaking.

It is not illegal, but to undertake it must be safe to do so, if you undertake and you are deemed the cause of an accident, you're up the creek.

Driving up the A1 the other week, car in front of me pulled out to over take a lorry, the then never pulled back over to the inside lane, there was a queue of traffic behind me, in the end me and several other cars undertook, the lady that was driving in the outside still didn't get the hint, so everyone that was queued behind her undertook. All she had to do was indicate left and pull to the inside lane, but she stopped put.
 
Tashyboy said:
Well I must be missing something, because that finishes by saying we shouldn't change the rules to compensate for those that break the rules. Well seeing as we have it in black and white that undertaking is not breaking the law but lane hogging is. It's not you best example of someone else's opinion to highlight. An opinion in which a agree with a hell of a lot of. One can only assume that you yourself are either a lane hogger or have never been held up by a hogger.

Now last year my daughter got pulled up by the Police ( unmarked car) for undertaking a car on the M1 in the outside lane doing 60 mph on a perfect evenings drive.
Said copper started giving her a lesson on driving and undertaking. Daughter asked if she was speeding. He said "no but you were undertaking". At that point daughter undid her coat, showed her warrant card to said Bobby and that she was herself a copper, and in no uncertain terms told him that she had flashed him 3 times to move over. He never did. She indicated and undertook him. At no point did she break the law. She told said copper who by now was posed off that he pulled over the wrong person.
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Read the highway code
 
It works well in the states but they tend to have 4/6 lanes on major roads .

as for the education aspect there are people in this country don’t even know who the prime minister is.
Never watch the news and are just unaware of most good manners ,and some who are just arrogant.
Good luck with educating them.

I asked one of my daughters friends why she drove in the outside lane all the time.?
”my instructor told me to do this so nobody can steal my handbag at the lights”

There had been a spate of thefts from cars at traffic lights by breaking the passenger window and grabbing handbags.

so I asked why do it on the motorway?

“Because I want to “

Thats what we are up against.!
 
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