UKIP a change on the political horizon or not.
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Father_Ted
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Its odd that as UKIP support has been rising so has the support for UK to stay in EU
A Mori poll showed that support to stay in EU had increased from 44 to 54 to 56% from Nov 12 to May 14 and Oct 14
And also odd that while theres only 1 UKIP MP in UK Parliament they are the largest UK party in European one. Surely just a protest vote
A Mori poll showed that support to stay in EU had increased from 44 to 54 to 56% from Nov 12 to May 14 and Oct 14
And also odd that while theres only 1 UKIP MP in UK Parliament they are the largest UK party in European one. Surely just a protest vote
SocketRocket
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What are they protesting about though!
CheltenhamHacker
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*What aren't they protesting about though
Father_Ted
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Protest is probably not the right term
More like in the belief that UKIP will keep the EU Parliament honest
And UKIP seems to be more interested in milking it for their own funding. They reestablished their parliamentary group fast enough when that lost recognition. And with a member of a really weird party
They also had the poorest record of attendance and voting of any party from anywhere
SocketRocket
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I'm not talking about UKIP. I am referring to the comment that votes for them are a protest. My question is that if this is so then what are these voters protesting about.
Father_Ted
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And given that the European Elections were mid termish in the UK election cycle it quite possibly was a protest of a sort with no specific reason
Thats generally the pattern in such elections
Voters want to express their discontent by voting against the government but not for the opposition irrespective of whos in power
Thats generally the pattern in such elections
Voters want to express their discontent by voting against the government but not for the opposition irrespective of whos in power
SocketRocket
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OK. But what is it they are discontent about and why dont they vote Labour? I think its more to do with a lot of people that want the Conservatives to move further right and are protesting because they aren't.
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Father_Ted
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As I said earlier it doesnt matter whether Conservatives or Labour are in power. Mid term votes generally go against the government
And the beneficiary is normally not the opposition
And with LibDems being part of the government its not going to go to them
Arent you just hoping its about moving further right
UKIP had 13 MEPs and no MPs last year. That either doesnt add up or UKIP are truly awful campaigners. Many say Carswell doesnt really count as a UKIP MP until reelected in May
Explain why UKIP popularity is rising yet percentage who want to stay in Europe is also rising
SocketRocket
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Why should I hope its moving right? I think people who suggest its a protest vote are grasping at straws and not accepting there is a growing move to the right throughout Europe. I would put it to you that there is a growing dissatisfaction with the way the EU is performing and how people perceive its principles affect their lives. I think its very naive to think its just a mid term protest.
Rumpokid
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I will vote UKIP,.... and it is not a protest vote.
I read the Mail on Sunday too, as it is the voice of the nation.
It is time that current parties got there heads back out from where they are stuck,and woke up to the problems of the country, they are in denial......Be it,,,,bloated welfare bill, health, immigration, lack of discipline in schools, personal and national debt..The list is endless.
I read the Mail on Sunday too, as it is the voice of the nation.
It is time that current parties got there heads back out from where they are stuck,and woke up to the problems of the country, they are in denial......Be it,,,,bloated welfare bill, health, immigration, lack of discipline in schools, personal and national debt..The list is endless.
SocketRocket
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I will vote UKIP,.... and it is not a protest vote.
I read the Mail on Sunday too, as it is the voice of the nation.
It is time that current parties got there heads back out from where they are stuck,and woke up to the problems of the country, they are in denial......Be it,,,,bloated welfare bill, health, immigration, lack of discipline in schools, personal and national debt..The list is endless.
There are many who feel the same. I noticed our National debt rose to 1.45 Trillion this month and we are continuing to borrow silly amounts. How can this continue?
Father_Ted
Club Champion
So why did Mori find that more people want to stay in Europe
SocketRocket
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Its a protest vote. The polls all said Scotland would vote Yes.
CheltenhamHacker
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I will vote UKIP,.... and it is not a protest vote.
I read the Mail on Sunday too, as it is the voice of the nation.
It is time that current parties got there heads back out from where they are stuck,and woke up to the problems of the country, they are in denial......Be it,,,,bloated welfare bill, health, immigration, lack of discipline in schools, personal and national debt..The list is endless.
Oh phew. There was me thinking UKIP were full of ridiculous, ill thought out, headline seeking, conflicting policies
But now I know they'll magically fix all of those issues, Come on Farage!
CheltenhamHacker
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No they didn't. One single poll over the whole campaign said that.
Father_Ted
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Only 1 poll put Yes ahead and then the big guns shot that down
Your on a Wind Up so I am out
Farage is on a Wind Up too. He is laughing in almost every photo you see of him
Rumpokid
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Well...the sham marriage between Mr Slippery and Mr Invisible have made a right good go of it..Lies,lies and more lies..So i guess (if Labourious get in),we'll be fine with Mr Ed and his contingent of hypocrites won't we?
SocketRocket
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Have you made an effort to find out what they stand for or do you get it from the Guardian?
SocketRocket
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I see the EU have decided that due to our economy recovering better than the rest of the EU we will have to pay an additional £1.7 Billion. You couldn't make it up!
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