TRUMP, What the hell is going on

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Liverpoolphil said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1148298496140820480

https://twitter.com/x/status/1148298497189392384

Sometimes I pity the US people having to put up with him but then I think - well you voted him in , you get what you want.

Oh how the UK will be when we get the English version
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Democracy comes at a price. A price we all should be prepared to pay irrespective of the outcomes.

Trump is loved by very large numbers of people in the USA and they have the right to hold these emotions.
 
SocketRocket said:
Not really like he just discovered the laws of momentum and do we believe the UK government dont already know how the White House operates; I wouldnt mind his salary to point out the blazing obvious. There has been far too much leaking of classified information in recent times and it seems like people do it with immunity. This mole needs rooting out and punishing whatever level they operate at.
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Gavin Williamson, sacked for 'leaking', is strongly rumoured to be in line for a seat in a Boris cabinet...
 
Foxholer said:
He was almosr certainly asked/required to do so! t is, after all, an essential part of his (ex?) job!

The problem was rhat it got leaked!!

Trump's response was entirely predictable - and, imo, appropriate! And I detest Trump!
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No his problem was using stupid language!

It was not an informative or perceptive briefing as he simply repeated stuff anyone could read in the press
 
drdel said:
No his problem was using stupid language!

It was not an informative or perceptive briefing as he simply repeated stuff anyone could read in the press
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The ambassador is neutral and has genuine access to the White House machine. His views clarify and confirm the situation. That they coincide with the rumours, the press etc is more worrying for America.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
The ambassador is neutral and has genuine access to the White House machine. His views clarify and confirm the situation. That they coincide with the rumours, the press etc is more worrying for America.
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No he didn't confirm anything other than prove his poor judgement derived of his own self importance. This was not using his unique position of access to provide otherwise unknown and time relevant material. His remarks were little more than tittle tattle. You really cannot defend such a waste of time and the crass stupidity of putting such phrases in an official briefing.

Just because Trump is a 'marmite' personality does not mean one of our highest ranking representatives should be given leeway to behave in a totally juvenile and unprofessional way.

He's been caught out by his own silliness and should resign.
 
IanM said:
Ambassador should never say what he said publicly.

Trump replied with his usual toddler's hissy fit on Twitter.

The default position is to ignore one and go on about the other.

Crikey I am glad I dont work in the White House Communications Team!!
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He didn't. What he said was in private and confidential memo's.

Couldn't agree more with your last sentence :eek:
 
IanM said:
No such thing as a confidential memo in Government.
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Exactly - he should have raised its security classification. But since the 'briefing' held no sensitive data, decision relevant or time dependent information on stuff Trump was doing: the guy was just sounding off and all he has shown is his own poor judgement in the process.
 
drdel said:
Exactly - he should have raised its security classification. But since the 'briefing' held no sensitive data, decision relevant or time dependent information on stuff Trump was doing: the guy was just sounding off and all he has shown is his own poor judgement in the process.
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Poor judgment? He got it spot on.
 
Kellfire said:
He did his job as instructed according to all the experts I’ve seen comment who actually know what these ambassadors do.
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He has now 'fallen on his sword' and resigned.

Only sensible action imo - regrettably. Continuing would cause UK problems and that cannot be allowed to happen.

A 'bump' to The Lords as part of May's leaving honours would be a 'nice' touch and 2 fingers to Trump - 1 from May; 1 from Sir Kim! ;)
 
Kellfire said:
He did his job as instructed according to all the experts I’ve seen comment who actually know what these ambassadors do.
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Clearly not, following the news update. The "expert" I was in the pub with last night offered £50 on a resignation by the end of the week.... I can't see where a comment by an ambassador slagging off the administration of an ally wouldn't require the boot! (as I mentioned earlier, there is a separation of protocol and anyone's opinion of Trump)
 
Foxholer said:
He has now 'fallen on his sword' and resigned.

Only sensible action imo - regrettably. Continuing would cause UK problems and that cannot be allowed to happen.

A 'bump' to The Lords as part of May's leaving honours would be a 'nice' touch and 2 fingers to Trump - 1 from May; 1 from Sir Kim! ;)
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Why stick two fingers up at Trump? Does it make you feel good. He is the USA's elected head.
 
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