Trolley Ban!

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FairwayDodger said:
It's more about achieving equitable outcomes, I believe. The impact of banning trolleys disproportionately affects someone who is unable to carry due to disability.
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So allow those who can produce a medical certificate describing their disability to use at least a pull trolley. That is what Sandy Lodge GC have done. The vast majority of golfers will not be using a trolley and any damage to the course will be minimised. :)
 
drive4show said:
Unfortunately in life, things aren't always fair and sometimes you just have to accept that some people will be disadvantaged. Where does it end? Why not make all amateur football 'walking only' so that older people or slightly chubby people can compete on an even level?

OK, tongue in cheek but sometimes that's just the way it is.
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Like golf handicaps, you mean? ;) :whistle:
 
delc said:
For those who can't carry, I don't think that pull trolleys do that much damage, compared with electric trolleys or golf buggies. Sandy Lodge GC had a carrying only rule last week, but those with a medical certificate could use a pull trolley. I usually leave 3 or 4 clubs out of my bag and carry in the Winter. It's surprising what a difference these few clubs makes. Maybe there is a case for reducing the maximum number of clubs you are allowed to carry, which would reduce the need for trolleys and buggies? I don't really seem to miss the missing clubs in my bag that much! :mmm:
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...or get a caddy to carry your bag for you.
 
We have had a trolley ban on 5 of our holes due to new drainage being laid

We tried get everyone going down temp path but due to wet conditions and the amount of traffic going through the ground soon become a mess and an issue for trolleys getting stuck

Thankfully all the members are aware of this and fully appreciative of the reason why there is a ban
 
Could clubs by pass any potential court rulings by getting members to sign up to terms and conditions when joining that state their will be trolly bans, as and when decided by the powers that be?
 
garyinderry said:
Could clubs by pass any potential court rulings by getting members to sign up to terms and conditions when joining that state their will be trolly bans, as and when decided by the powers that be?
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A bit extreme is it not, members should accept things like this are done to help the course. Maybe they should get any member new or existing to sign a contract stating that if they are caught taking longer than 3 1/2 hours to play a round then they get banned for a month or so, that would speed thing up for sure & see a lot of slow players get banned.
 
HankMarvin said:
A bit extreme is it not, members should accept things like this are done to help the course. Maybe they should get any member new or existing to sign a contract stating that if they are caught taking longer than 3 1/2 hours to play a round then they get banned for a month or so, that would speed thing up for sure & see a lot of slow players get banned.
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Yes it is and yes they should but you only have to look at the earlier posts from the guy that is threatening to sue the club to see that it might be necessary. I do however like your suggestion to avoid slow play with just a couple of minor tweaks.....3 hours max for a round and a 6 month ban for a first offence, 12 months for a second offence and a lifetime ban for any further transgressions. :)
 
ColchesterFC said:
Yes it is and yes they should but you only have to look at the earlier posts from the guy that is threatening to sue the club to see that it might be necessary. I do however like your suggestion to avoid slow play with just a couple of minor tweaks.....3 hours max for a round and a 6 month ban for a first offence, 12 months for a second offence and a lifetime ban for any further transgressions. :)
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Auld Hank Likes your way off thinking
 
ColchesterFC said:
Yes it is and yes they should but you only have to look at the earlier posts from the guy that is threatening to sue the club to see that it might be necessary. I do however like your suggestion to avoid slow play with just a couple of minor tweaks.....3 hours max for a round and a 6 month ban for a first offence, 12 months for a second offence and a lifetime ban for any further transgressions. :)
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Bit of an assumption there as @psychew states in the post that resurrected this thread...

My partner is disabled and his club like many others have a trolley ban I am at this point fighting the decision

In fact in that original thread it's not clear if @psychew actually plays the game because reference is made to his club and not our club. I may have missed statements in this thread by @psychew since that original one that clarifies these thoughts; but this might explain the rather lack of understanding shown at times by @psychew of the issues, and the pressures on greenkeepers and greens committees, in respect of golf course management in extremely wet weather.
 
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So would it be better to just close the course for everyone.

Some people just need to accept that they might not be able to play due to not being able to walk & carry, simples
 
The problem you have is its the retired members that keep course alive with there play during the weekdays, if you banned trolleys all together at our place like they tired in the past there would be no money coming into the club at all. Hedgehog wheels are made mandatory and all stick to it.

How you can expect 70+ year olds to still carry a bag is a little unfair. My old man is 76 has 2 hip replacements, and suffers from COPD. He will play twice a week during the winter and is still off 14. He's not alone in this they all range from 60-80 who play in the week and all still play to a good standard.
 
Nashy said:
The problem you have is its the retired members that keep course alive with there play during the weekdays, if you banned trolleys all together at our place like they tired in the past there would be no money coming into the club at all. Hedgehog wheels are made mandatory and all stick to it.

How you can expect 70+ year olds to still carry a bag is a little unfair. My old man is 76 has 2 hip replacements, and suffers from COPD. He will play twice a week during the winter and is still off 14. He's not alone in this they all range from 60-80 who play in the week and all still play to a good standard.
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3 cheers for your old man and his buddies.

* Life's tough and I wouldn't want a course closed just because some folk can't carry a bag. Same for the fatties, if you can't tread lightly then take some time off.
 
We have had trolly bans in recent weeks, and buggies are still banned. Our current advice according to the website is "carry where possible" Now what that means and how many still use trollies I don't know as I've not been up in a while although its a comp tomorrow so we'll see. It asks to stick to the roped off paths but I know from before Christmas these areas were getting churned badly in places

I agree with the sentiment that it is the seniors that keep the club active during the week, even if they don't necessarily spend masses in the 19th. They are at least utilising the course. As for the debate regarding a buggy ban and a disabled member, I can't see anything other than a court ruling deciding the outcome and I can see it being costly for the club, especially in terms of any "suitable adjustments". Some very interesting and vociferous comments
 
our club issues an electric ban on trolleys ,push or pull trolleys are fine ,but i will just get the pencil bag out and use that ,saves getting the trolley all yucky and muddy ,a stand bag stays clean.
 
How did I miss this!

We're carry only tomorrow, if anyone can't carry I need my 2 cars & van washing and a few shopping chores done, should get the old heart pumping and take about the same time as my round, when your finished I'll then buy the tea & crumpets 👍😂
 
HomerJSimpson said:
We have had trolly bans in recent weeks, and buggies are still banned. Our current advice according to the website is "carry where possible" Now what that means and how many still use trollies I don't know as I've not been up in a while although its a comp tomorrow so we'll see. It asks to stick to the roped off paths but I know from before Christmas these areas were getting churned badly in places

I agree with the sentiment that it is the seniors that keep the club active during the week, even if they don't necessarily spend masses in the 19th. They are at least utilising the course. As for the debate regarding a buggy ban and a disabled member, I can't see anything other than a court ruling deciding the outcome and I can see it being costly for the club, especially in terms of any "suitable adjustments". Some very interesting and vociferous comments
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Homer, no offence here but your club's "carry where possible" means nothing, folk will do exactly what they want.

My vote goes to the club that's banning the 4x4, buggy or trolley and if the disabled guy needs to sit it out then it can't be helped.

On a lighter note I'd ban some fatties because they can also churn it up, a set of scales on the first tee and a weigh in :thup:
 
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