Traditional or modern?

I've got a Skycaddy SGX which is deemed to be one of the best available and I have to say it really helps when I'm playing either new or different courses to my own as it saves having to hunt out distances markers (discs on the fairways, stakes at the fairway sides etc) and then having to pace back to my ball. I don't use it on my home course as I'm comfortable with my distances seeing as I play it so often.

I don't think it gives me any advantage in my playing but it certainly does speed up my game and stops me having to keep glancing back behind and check that I'm not holding play up for anyone following behind (the main reason for this is poorly marked out tee locations).
 
As far as i know golf would Traditionaly have been played with a caddy carring you bag giving you lines off the tee and on the greens you also have Fore caddies spotting your ball, so i think we have gone backwards dragging you own bag around with you. It's very little difference between a stroke saver and a gps.
Mike

Cars used to have to be driven with a guy walking in front waving a flag. Times do indeed change but golf should keep some of its challenges. The hard bit is agreeing which ones.
Who needs a strokesaver for their local course?
 
I've got a Skycaddy SGX which is deemed to be one of the best available and I have to say it really helps when I'm playing either new or different courses to my own as it saves having to hunt out distances markers (discs on the fairways, stakes at the fairway sides etc) and then having to pace back to my ball. I don't use it on my home course as I'm comfortable with my distances seeing as I play it so often.

I don't think it gives me any advantage in my playing but it certainly does speed up my game and stops me having to keep glancing back behind and check that I'm not holding play up for anyone following behind (the main reason for this is poorly marked out tee locations).
Why pace though? surely you know what 10 or 20 yards etc looks like roughly?
 
I've got a Skycaddy SGX which is deemed to be one of the best available and I have to say it really helps when I'm playing either new or different courses to my own as it saves having to hunt out distances markers (discs on the fairways, stakes at the fairway sides etc) and then having to pace back to my ball. I don't use it on my home course as I'm comfortable with my distances seeing as I play it so often.

I don't think it gives me any advantage in my playing but it certainly does speed up my game and stops me having to keep glancing back behind and check that I'm not holding play up for anyone following behind (the main reason for this is poorly marked out tee locations).
Why pace though? surely you know what 10 or 20 yards etc looks like roughly?

Sometimes hard to judge 10 or 20 yards when your knee deep, off piste in rough where the greenstaff rarely visit :o
 
Sometimes hard to judge 10 or 20 yards when your knee deep, off piste in rough where the greenstaff rarely visit :o
So knowing it is exactly 189 yards to the green when you will be coming out nearly sideways helps because...... :)

Handicap golfers, know your limits! :D:D
 
further more

i stayed away from metals & graph shafts....til i was 22 & had the rep come round do a golf day at the club i was Ast at & i was testing out as i was asked opinion on

& i tried it out & got on with it (still using to this day)

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my driver next to some 460cc monstrosity

still have my vintage persimmon driver & 3w & from 60s ?

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my uncle was one of first to go graphite shaft at the club i was at as a junior ....i personally didnt think it was right at time

i just dont like things that lessen the challenge & cheapen the game (as i see it) hence me STILL using small headed metals out of choice

tbh im still not 100% au fait with the metals i use....even tho theyre 20 yrs old

this will probably sound arrogant & condescending....
but in my honest & frank opinion id say without the technological advancements,i dont think half the tour pros today would have had the success compared to the consistent type of golfer u had to be in the past
i mean some pro's alomst air shotting with 460cc's.....theyd have missed the ball completely if it wasnt twice the size . too much margin for error & having the extra leeway isnt good for the game IMO means u can put any old swing on it & still get it out the sweetspot somehow

Who needs a strokesaver for their local course?
exactly my thoughts brendy....like i say id drop my gps if i was a member somewhere

& yes alot of ppl no matter if they know the exact distance to go....wont help as they dont have hte distance control to make it pay anyway
 
They are not electronic books by the way. They are real time distance devices.
Stroke savers are there to show you general yardages and bunkers etc in the distance that you may not see from the tee/fairway etc. they dont give you exact yardage from anywhere on the course which is where the argument comes in that you should have to figure out your yardage yourself when you miss the fairway.

So a Strokesaver is to just so "general" yardages, to show you "approximately" where hazards are.....

Get real Brendy!!

A GPS does exactly what a strokesaver does - exactly!! It just does it without you having to work out which tree is pictured on the strokesave and are you next to it or not.

If DMD's are "not in the Spirit of the game(God I hate that phrase!)" then nor are yardage markes at 100, 200, 150 or whatever, nor are yardages marked on sprinkler heads or any yardage information at the tee or on the scorecard. Ban the Strokesaver - it can tell you how far to the green when you're off the fairway too.........

In your piece in the Mag you refered to Darts and how that has remained the same - FFS Brendy, you're chucking sharpened bits of metal at a board - how can that move with the times? Golf has it's areas that have remained since day 1 - get the ball in the hole....

Do you use a Sat-Nav? What's wrong with a Map....?
 
They are not electronic books by the way. They are real time distance devices.
Stroke savers are there to show you general yardages and bunkers etc in the distance that you may not see from the tee/fairway etc. they dont give you exact yardage from anywhere on the course which is where the argument comes in that you should have to figure out your yardage yourself when you miss the fairway.

So a Strokesaver is to just so "general" yardages, to show you "approximately" where hazards are.....

Get real Brendy!!

A GPS does exactly what a strokesaver does - exactly!! It just does it without you having to work out which tree is pictured on the strokesave and are you next to it or not.

If DMD's are "not in the Spirit of the game(God I hate that phrase!)" then nor are yardage markes at 100, 200, 150 or whatever, nor are yardages marked on sprinkler heads or any yardage information at the tee or on the scorecard. Ban the Strokesaver - it can tell you how far to the green when you're off the fairway too.........

In your piece in the Mag you refered to Darts and how that has remained the same - FFS Brendy, you're chucking sharpened bits of metal at a board - how can that move with the times? Golf has it's areas that have remained since day 1 - get the ball in the hole....

Do you use a Sat-Nav? What's wrong with a Map....?

The only thing I would disagree in that is that the 50 100 150 markers are there for everyone to see and use. Having a gps it can become a bit for the person who has the extra to play the game to gain one of these. If I cant afford a gps then am I at a disadvantage to those who can afford one which makes the game easier as has been said by those that use one?

Interesting points about the whole pacing it out. Are you seriously telling me if you turned up to a club and forgot your gps or it ran out of battery that you would go pace every shot out? I doubt you would in fact I dont think I have ever seen anyone on a course go pace a shot out and find a yardage that way?
 
You can get GPS for not much money at all. Gary's got a Skycaddie for sale for 100 notes. Other can be even cheaper.
I don't buy the cost bleat. If you can afford Golf Clubs you can afford a GPS. It's whether you want to or not.
GPS is available to all, just like a 910 driver, Superfast wood, G15 irons....................
 
Of course people cannot afford them, why would people spend extra £100 quid or so on one if they didnt need them as such. If your son/daughter took up golf you wouldnt purchase them a gps as a standard starter kit would you? even though people say its a massive help to know what distances they hit then it would benefit a newbie than a regular player as such.

I dont have a problem with them I just fail to see the benefit in them and the justifying of £200 quid for a standard gps. I do like the idea of me and my clubs against the course. No outside interference as such.

Nothing annoys me more when you prepare for a shot and someone pops up its 151.5 yards to the front of the green and then be like I bet thats made up ya mind. Just wish those with them would keep the yardages to themselves when I am playing with them.
 
151.5 yrds thats like 1 large pace from the 150 marker ...isnt it?


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lol exactly the point if someone cant work that out then they need shooting not a gps system.

editted to say, now we will get all the conspiracy theorists on here stating how the markers are wrong and the setting of these is just to put people off.
 
i go round the courses at night moving the distance stakes back or forward 10 or 12 yrds....but dont tell anyone ;)



and any pro i'll bet does the same to sell more gps units
for accurate yardages


im just kidding PGA pros :)
 
Of course people cannot afford them, why would people spend extra £100 quid or so on one if they didnt need them as such. If your son/daughter took up golf you wouldnt purchase them a gps as a standard starter kit would you?

Agreed, because, let's face it, GPS isn't a necessity. That isn't the point.
The point is that you are able to buy one if you wish. It is available to you. If you wanted a 910 driver then you'd find the money and buy it - if you wanted a GPS you'd find the money and buy it. You can get a brand new GPS for under £100 - I wonder how many Green Fees those that say they can't afford one pay every year.........?
 
I started off many many years ago. When woods were wood, and irons were iron. So as to speak. I see no problem with modern tec. Things always move forward, for good or bad. Should we all still use gas light or watch black&white TV? of course not. So why the differance with golf. If its in the rules and you want to do it or not. Its all up to you.
 
Agreed, because, let's face it, GPS isn't a necessity. That isn't the point.
The point is that you are able to buy one if you wish. It is available to you. If you wanted a 910 driver then you'd find the money and buy it - if you wanted a GPS you'd find the money and buy it. You can get a brand new GPS for under £100 - I wonder how many Green Fees those that say they can't afford one pay every year.........?

It depends really, if youre not a member of a club you could use all the money you have on green fees just to play. Dont get me wrong its a choice if you can afford one. For the money I could spend on a gps I could have a good couple of golfing weekends away throughout the year and I know what I would choose but thats just me.

If its in the rules its fine, dont get me started on the anchored swing of belly or long putter. There is very little that is traditional in the game from 50 years ago from clubs to clothing.
 
So a Strokesaver is to just so "general" yardages, to show you "approximately" where hazards are.....

Get real Brendy!!

A GPS does exactly what a strokesaver does - exactly!! It just does it without you having to work out which tree is pictured on the strokesave and are you next to it or
You just said it yourself, it does it without you having to work.
Strokesavers are not inch perfect, they don't need to be. They are pieces of non interactive paper. We got strokesavers for ballyliffin, mine is still sat in the bag having only been opened on page one then not used again.

Any amateur that uses a GPS device is frankly kidding themselves. If you have bought into the fact that you need one then you have my sympathy whether you want it or not. Gps is an extension to trying to find that ultimate club that will stop the garden gate swing, take shallower divots and gave an invisible nozzle. Get back to basics and stop trying to use technology as a crutch to lean on when you know in the pit of your stomach that it really isn't helping.
For a recreational toy they could be fun, for use during a competitive round.....definitely not for me.
 
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