You have an Evnroll, a thing of absolute beauty. You already have a nice putter. Stop flirting with others
Toe Hang, or Not Toe Hang..
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Orikoru
Tour Winner
I mean it's fine. After two and a bit years the magic pixie dust has certainly worn off though.You have an Evnroll, a thing of absolute beauty. You already have a nice putter. Stop flirting with others
I briefly toyed with a TaylorMade Spider Tour last year, but the combination of being a large mallet with toe-hang didn't feel right at all. It only lasted a few weeks in the bag, didn't like it. The Odyssey being centre-shafted and balanced is a nicer feel for sure.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Not sure that the weight of one end of a putter will be sufficient to twist the face in your putting stroke - unless you have a really limp grip
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Spend £40 on a samlab session and all all the guess work.
SteveW86
Head Pro
This is not the place for sensible suggestions.
cliveb
Head Pro
I use a face balanced mallet because that's what I was told I needed in a fitting at Moor Park a few years ago. (He didn't sell it to me - just explained the type of putter I needed and told me to go and buy one).
Regarding hitting straight back and through, I asked the fitter about that and he said that everyone has some degree or arc in their putter stroke; a straight line is basically impossible.
I guess this must be because the putter shaft isn't vertical so it's not possible to have a pure pendulum motion?
Orikoru
Tour Winner
I am tempted to do another fitting, being about 8 years since my last one. I haven't done the research yet on where I might be able to do that at a location near me though.
Orikoru
Tour Winner
Yeah I've thought about that as well. If you try and go straight back and through with anything but a perfectly upright lie angle, you're surely doing an arc but the opposite way? Like out to in to out. And that can't be helpful. I quite like the feeling of using the face-balanced putter and just consciously keeping the toe open as I swing through - rather than weight in the toe trying to do that for me.
Patster1969
Assistant Pro
I went to Precision Golf for a putter fitting last year because I was struggling with my putting. After seeing my technique for 15 putts, the fitter basically told me that a new putter wouldn't help, as my technique was terrible (which was pretty honest of him really, as it probably saved me £100/200).
The one thing he said (and it was something that I tried to do with my Odyssey mallet) was unless you spend hours & hours practising, don't try & hold the face square on a back & through straight path - this is what I tried to do & it caused my issues with a pull & inconsistent pace control on longer putts.
From what he said, most golfers will/should have a slight arc to their putting, as this is more natural - whether that's with a toe hang putter is likely a completely personal choice though (as a few have already said), as how it looks to your eye is different from another golfer.
HomerJSimpson
Hall of Famer
Aimpoint
I have gone back to an Anser putter (PLD) as that is what I had as a kid (original Anser 2) but have a toe down Odyseey milled #9 and a massive Odyssey 2 ball fang which as face balanced as reserves so have all the bases covered. I am trying to simply do my aimpoint read, trust it and try and hit my start point. In general my pace control isn't too bad so I am trying to keep it as simple as possible. My putting practice revolves around holing out drills from 3-6 feet (more work need according to Arcoss but the longer nights are coming) and some simple pace control work with one ball
Putting is a game within a game and I try and keep it as simple as I can so I don't overthink or over complicate
I think that was meant tongue in cheek.
While club fitting in general contributing anything is at least an open question, 'putter fitting' realy is going off the deep end from reality.
SteveW86
Head Pro
I very much doubt it was tongue in cheek.
We also dont need any follow up posts that you dont believe in fitting, there are enough of those in the fitting thread.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
Would a putting lesson be just as effective
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Putting has always been a weak point in my game and I’d say on average I’d change putters at least once or twice per year over the past ten years. The newbie generally works for a few months before my eye wanders and there’s something new in the watch list. I had tried pretty much every variation from length, head shape, face balanced, mid toe hang, full toe hang, blade, mallet… the list goes on.
Coming out of lock down I had two on the naughty step, one in the bag and four in the watch list which the misses was getting alerts for… the shock part comes next!
In a general convo HID asks, “ how many putters are in the garage, how much have you wasted on selling fees and postage, just get fitted for one and have done with it “
I got fitted for the spec and decided on the scotty as the investment should stop the temptation. My putting got better by a good margin but there was still an itch as I didn’t like the visual look of the neck on the face balanced Scottie’s. Two putters over this winter I have just had to accept that the Scotty suits me, I have an ugly stroke, the scotty has an ugly neck and we need to learn to co exist.
Over the next month I have some time on my hands and short game work is going to take a front row seat. When I dedicate the time to practice, my putting improves however 5 practice putts pre round before hitting the tee is never going to deliver great results (ironically I had 10-15 putts yesterday and putted well)
Invest and then stick with it
SteveW86
Head Pro
A lesson will always help, but if I was worried at all about my putting I would go somewhere that has a SAM lab, they tell you so much about your stroke.
The data you get will either tell you what you are doing wrong, or give you confidence that you are starting your putts on the right line and it’s a pace/reading issue.
I had a putter fitting at PG a couple of years ago now, and it backed up all the thoughts I had in my head giving me the confidence that I had both the right putter and my stroke was good.
PJ87
Journeyman Pro
See id like to invest in an aimpoint express lesson and learn the method
Oddsocks
Ryder Cup Winner
Recently moved to this only when I simply struggle to read a putt and I’m indecisive. Not full sim point, but I’ll stand where a feel the break is, close my eyes and feel where the weight is in my feet.
I maybe do this three to four times a round, but there really is very basic rules (that work for me), but the main is guess which was it breaks when the green isn’t in line with the lay of the land
RichA
Well-known member
I've got a face balanced Odyssey 2-ball mallet and a Ping ZB3 blade with loads of toe hang.
In terms of direction, I don't feel it really makes any difference.
I'm more likely to totally misjudge pace with the 2-ball but I think that's more to do with the weight.
In terms of direction, I don't feel it really makes any difference.
I'm more likely to totally misjudge pace with the 2-ball but I think that's more to do with the weight.
Crow
Crow Person
As with my irons, the most important feature of my putters is their looks.
Although I do like a long blade as it makes it visually easier to square it to the line.
I forgot my putter once and borrowed a Taylor Made Spider variant, the stability of it was frightening and I felt I couldn't miss anything under 5 feet.
I was glad to hand it back.
Although I do like a long blade as it makes it visually easier to square it to the line.
I forgot my putter once and borrowed a Taylor Made Spider variant, the stability of it was frightening and I felt I couldn't miss anything under 5 feet.
I was glad to hand it back.
RichA
Well-known member
I would have thought you'd rather pick up.
