To those who voted to stay in the EU..........

[Fyldewhite]

Has he gone now?

1. What would you like to happen next?
Teresa May to be elected leader and say "The last few months have been complete bollocks, we don't know how it happened but what Cameron was thinking giving the British people a free vote on not liking meddling foreigners is hard to understand. It's a bleedin' hobby for 75% of us! Let's put this to bed now and work with our European neighbours to change the EU for the better for the sake of our future generations".

2. Do you think it will happen?
No. But given the pantomime politics of the last week, in some ways I wouldn't be surprised if it did.

Seriously.......I hope there could be a rethink. There has to be serious doubt about the validity of the result given the quality/tone of the Leave campaign. Taking just one issue......there is little doubt that many, many people were swayed by the £350m/NHS claim all over the bus. Breathtaking that Farage said it was "a mistake" the day after. Every expert opinion was simply brushed aside as "scaremongering". "We've heard enough from experts" said Gove......simply unbelievable when the electorate were crying out for information. Feel sorry for those who wavered and then voted out. Must feel foolish now they know they were duped.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

Cameron could have fixed the referendum to suit his sides view. It could have been a percentage of electorate rather than straight percentage of voters.
Even Muirfield don't change things unless over 60 something percent of members agree.
But he made it a pure 50/50 vote.
To me that is politically poor.
But that is what was decided and we must abide by it (unless we can avoid it).

 

[Foxholer]

1. What would you like to happen next?
2. Do you think it will happen?

1. UK invited to stay in EU - with some 'better' limits on immigration negotiated ; UK accepts

2. No!

 

[bluewolf]

I'd like people to be able to follow simple instructions (this thread was for remainers)

I'd like people who voted remain to stop moaning and accept the result.

I'd like people who voted leave to stop trying to manoeuvre themselves into a position whereby they can take credit for the UK's future success, and blame the negative attitude of the remainers for any future economic turbulence.

Will it happen? No, absolutely not. At the end of the day, people are predictable animals.

 

[SocketRocket]

Did you vote to stay in the EU?

I said sense of Humour not Horror !

 

[SocketRocket]

Don't know why I bothered.
If people can't reply to my question, then can the mods close this thread please.
Thank you to those who tried

I apologise for posting contrary to the objective for this thread.

 

[larmen]

I like to see the parliament taking a vote based on the mood of the country.
We all know what the mood on the 23rd was, but they haven't voted on the 23rd or 24th, and a lot has happened since.
I can't see any MP standing up and honestly say they believe the mood is still the same.

So I don't think the UK will leave the EU.

 

[DCB]

Does anyone on here seriously think that Scotland has the resources to survive as an independant country?

No, not in the long term.

 

[SocketRocket]

I like to see the parliament taking a vote based on the mood of the country.
We all know what the mood on the 23rd was, but they haven't voted on the 23rd or 24th, and a lot has happened since.
I can't see any MP standing up and honestly say they believe the mood is still the same.

So I don't think the UK will leave the EU.

It cant be correct to keep having votes until some people get the result they desire. MP's in the Government wont be voting on the mood on any day they will be voting based on an instruction from the public who using the democratic method for the UK decided to leave the EU. Anything else would be travesty of everything our parliamentary system stands for. I believe 100% that we will leave otherwise our democracy will be in tatters.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Lucky you. FYI I heard that Under Armour a now doing a nice line in stab vests.

I'm a Glaswegian

 

[Val]

No, not in the long term.

Why do you think that Dave?

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Incidentally, I believe that if we do leave we will rejoin in the future. Might be decades from now but it'll certainly be on less preferential terms than we've enjoyed until now.

I actually believe that the EU is a dead duck, seems to be a growing movement in other countries to leave as well. Whether or not that happens I obviously don't know but I suspect it's just a matter of time before the whole thing falls apart.

 

[Tarkus1212]

I actually believe that the EU is a dead duck, seems to be a growing movement in other countries to leave as well. Whether or not that happens I obviously don't know but I suspect it's just a matter of time before the whole thing falls apart.

The EU will reform before getting to the point of falling apart. The UK leaving may well be the catalyst for reform and if that turns out to be the case then that would be the best thing to come out of the referendum.

 

[chippa1909]

Scotland to be an independent country within the EU.

Yes will narrowly lose indyref2 despite an accident at Faslane which renders Scotland to a wasteland. This is actually the low point for the No campaign as it is an improvement on their predictions for an independent Scotland.

 

[chippa1909]

No, not in the long term.

Piffle.

 

[chippa1909]

If (and a few if's in here) the City of London loses it's EU Banking Passport and an Independent Scotland within the EU gains one I think you may see a shift of a lot of Banking services move to Edinburgh.

I'm not sure if they would necessarily need that to "survive" as don't know too much about Scotlands economy but isn't going to do them any harm

As FD has already said, if the SNP snakes can get some form of agreement on EU membership Scotland could well be independent by the time "little England" is anywhere close to having a clue what to do...........

Snakes?
That's the language of a nitwit.

 

[bobmac]

It seems the mods didn't hear me first time.
Can someone please close this thread

 

[Hobbit]

Does anyone on here seriously think that Scotland has the resources to survive as an independant country?

No, not in the long term.

Piffle.

Yes, but with very different taxation, and I feel that the SNP know that.

The current budget deficit is £15 billion. The budget deficit in the White Paper pre Indyref1 was £10billion, and that was based on an oil price of $110 a barrel. The SNP is very much a Socialist party that buys votes with cuddly giveaways.

Its desire to raise income tax rates is already evident with its higher rate than the rest of the U.K. for higher earners. And to balance its books it will have to raise it higher, and across the different bands.

Balancing the the books is a must to pass the criteria for entry into the EU. And the EU will, with Scotland's GDP, want it as a net contributor.

So yes, Scotland can survive on its own providing its willing to take onboard significantly higher income tax rates or massively reduce its Social policies.

 

[harpo_72]

Sorry bobmac, this has created a divide across the country. It is prevalent on the forum. The Winnie the Pooh meme really was an insult, to most remainers.

to answer your question ...
selfish reply..
1. Those who work in product development remain untouched and the VDA (German car manufacturers ) push the German government to have a special deal with the U.K. Regarding imports - although I suspect the manufacturing side of the U.K. Operations will be at risk, due to component cost.
2. Yes, I think it will happen, big business rules and if it keeps the economies bubbling along then it will happen. Also the banking system will follow suit.

unselfish reply,
1. Referendum is treated as a non binding opinion gauge- we now have an opinion. The next point is the leave campaign should field candidates in a general election and have a majority stake in the House of Commons to progress article 50. That would be democratic due process.
2. Who knows ...

 

[bobmac]

Sorry bobmac, this has created a divide across the country. It is prevalent on the forum. The Winnie the Pooh meme really was an insult, to most remainers.

There are other threads on which people can argue the toss, this was supposed a positive thread, free of squabbling and name calling. It was designed to encourage the remainers to post something positive for a change. Sadly, some people can't help themselves.