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Does anyone on here seriously think that Scotland has the resources to survive as an independant country?
To those who voted to stay in the EU..........
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GB72
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There will be a vote in parliament to serve the article 50 notice so as no one party or person takes the blame, it will be defeated, there will be a general election as a result with the main issue being whether to invoke article 50 without the approval of parliament and irrespective of who wins there will be legal challenges for years on whether we are in or out.
This will be like the third runway at Heathrow with buck passing and challenges for years. In the meantime one or two other countries will vote out
This will be like the third runway at Heathrow with buck passing and challenges for years. In the meantime one or two other countries will vote out
FairwayDodger
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Yes
NWJocko
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If (and a few if's in here) the City of London loses it's EU Banking Passport and an Independent Scotland within the EU gains one I think you may see a shift of a lot of Banking services move to Edinburgh.
I'm not sure if they would necessarily need that to "survive" as don't know too much about Scotlands economy but isn't going to do them any harm
As FD has already said, if the SNP snakes can get some form of agreement on EU membership Scotland could well be independent by the time "little England" is anywhere close to having a clue what to do...........
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Well good luck! Don't forget that approx 10% of the national debt would transfer to Scotland as well. How much oil revenue do you think remains?
https://www.quora.com/Could-Scotland-survive-economically-if-she-was-to-go-independent-from-the-UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_debt
FairwayDodger
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A very quick look at the world will show you plenty of much poorer places than Scotland surviving quite happily as independent countries so only an idiot would think we couldn't.
If you are determined to stir things a better question would be whether people in an independent Scotland would be able to maintain the same standard of living we have now.
NWJocko
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Out of interest, what do you think an independent England/Wales would look like economically?
Especially if the Banking access to the EU isn't available?
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I'm not stirring it Kaz, after all I'm Scottish and I want to see the country do well but I really don't believe they have the resources to do so. Happy to rephrase the question how you have worded it.
I don't know how much the banking sector contributes to the English/Welsh economies and at this moment in time nobody knows what is going to happen so very difficult to say.
Val
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Yes, I believe it has
FairwayDodger
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Not sure I knew that! Welcome! Lol! I'm less hostile to your line of questioning now!
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Not sure I knew that! Welcome! Lol! I'm less hostile to your line of questioning now!
Stop being nice to me, I can't deal with affection :ears:
BubbaP
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1. What would you like to happen next?
Stop messing about on the edges of the EU and vetoing things. Sign up to the EU project fully, go full on for further and closer political integration, and join the Euro zone ASAP
2. Do you think it will happen?
No. Majority will be change averse and prefer to stick to status quo.
Stop messing about on the edges of the EU and vetoing things. Sign up to the EU project fully, go full on for further and closer political integration, and join the Euro zone ASAP
2. Do you think it will happen?
No. Majority will be change averse and prefer to stick to status quo.
SwingsitlikeHogan
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Likewise...and it is my Mrs (from Derbyshire) who really wants us to move 2-3yrs from now. She has her eye on a us getting a nice big tenement flat in Glasgow's West End. before the vote she was 80/20 - now 95/5.
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lex!
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Lucky you. FYI I heard that Under Armour a now doing a nice line in stab vests.
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I hope that the government decide to use the referendum as a poll rather than a binding deal, take the outcome under advisement but do not invoke article 50.
They should say to themselves "37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU, this means that a lot of the people are fed up and change is needed". "Also, if we ever do a Referendum again, we must make the vote harder to lose, say 50+% of the entire electorate must vote for the winning side, rather than just the majority of those who bothered to vote".
They then make the necessary changes to make everyone happy, and do not exit the EU.
I do not expect this to happen. I predict a long, drawn out negotiation in which we get shafted by the EU. After all, these are the same people who managed to sell off the Post Office so effectively!
They should say to themselves "37% of the electorate voted to leave the EU, this means that a lot of the people are fed up and change is needed". "Also, if we ever do a Referendum again, we must make the vote harder to lose, say 50+% of the entire electorate must vote for the winning side, rather than just the majority of those who bothered to vote".
They then make the necessary changes to make everyone happy, and do not exit the EU.
I do not expect this to happen. I predict a long, drawn out negotiation in which we get shafted by the EU. After all, these are the same people who managed to sell off the Post Office so effectively!
Val
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Why would he need one?
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Over 1mil people more voted to leave than stay in, how is that a minority?
Majority of those that voted, minority of the electorate.
72% turnout, 51% voted out, only 37% of electorate
Doon frae Troon
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My Mrs thinks a Brexit will never happen, part of me tends to agree with her.
They already seem to be putting clause 50 further and further back.
Any PM [and maybe party] who starts the process will be toast within a very short time.
They already seem to be putting clause 50 further and further back.
Any PM [and maybe party] who starts the process will be toast within a very short time.
Doon frae Troon
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Are you living in a time warp?
SocketRocket
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Come on! If the vote had been the same percentages but reversed you wouldn't be saying that. You are just talking sour grapes as you never goy your way. We will leave the EU, saying the referendum was advisory is putting your head in the clouds. It's best to get over it now and get on with life, you never know it may turn out well after the initial posturing and flapping.
